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Spohn or hotchkis... or who?
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Camaro350Z28
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:25 am    Post subject: Spohn or hotchkis... or who? Reply with quote

Looking into buying some suspensions.. torque arm, lcas, sway bars panhard bar etc.. who should i go with? spohn one of the best? or what?
thanks

Tim

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bar none the two best are.

Global West

and my personal favorite.

Unbalanced Engineering

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mix and match.

Here is my christmas list. It isnt the best stuff, but it should give you the basic idea.

Polyurethane Bushing Full Car Total Kit – Spohn - $139.95
Polyurethane Bushing & Chassis Grease – Spohn - $14.00
Eibach Sportline 1.8’’ Lowering Springs – Hawks - $259.99
KYB AGX Gas Shock Rear x2 – Hawks - $233.98
KYB AGX Gas Strut Front X2 – Hawks - $311.98
Lower Control Arm Relocation Brackets – Spohn - $65.00
LCA Mounting Hardware Kit – Spohn - $9.95
Lower Control Arms - Adj. w/ Poly Bushings – Spohn - $155.00
24mm Rear Sway Bar – TDS - $62.50
34mm Front Swaybar – TDS - $65.00
Panhard Bar - Adjustable w/ Poly Bushings – Spohn - $115.00
Panhard Bar Mounting Hardware Kit – Spohn - $9.95
MAC Performance Strut Tower Brace – Hawks - $90.00

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Midnight Sun wrote:

Eibach Sportline 1.8’’ Lowering Springs – Hawks - $259.99



FWIW Tirerack.com has the Eibach Sportlines for $194. Thought maybe I might save Santa a few fun tickets Wink

Tim,
You should be fine with any of those really. I am running Eibach springs, energy suspension poly bushings, Spohn LCA - panhard - torque arm - sfc's - lca relocation brackets, global west 'wonder bar' and hotchkiss stb. It seems to handle pretty good but I'm not hardcore like the Dewmeister. Dewey did have some quality issues with some early Spohn pieces but I think that it has been good with the newer designs.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SSS Moo Parts anyday! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol - my bad I'm with stupid
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm thats some expensive stuff in some of that there dewey... ill try mixing and matchin and see what i can do. Ill tell ya when i buy stuff then you can tell me if its a bad choice or not... or maybe before i order.. hmm yeah

Tim

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Dewey likes things that are expensive, he just can't afford them himself Wink

I've been happy with the homemade stuff, the spohn LCARB, and will be getting the Spohn Torque arm someday.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, i will clearify. There is a reason i like parts from those two company's, Unbalanced makes some parts that no one else does. Like a de-coupled torque arm. PHB Relocation kit, etc. Global west makes LCA's that have a spherical bearing, and are non-adjustable, this makes them basicly bullet proof. Basicly any PHB will work, its pretty hard to screw one of them up. I would just warn you to stay aware from BMR, i have not heard good things about their parts.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dewey316 wrote:
I would just warn you to stay aware from BMR, i have not heard good things about their parts.


Well, I have to say my BMR STB is pretty nice and fits very well. Just don't buy directly from BMR. Buy from a stocking dealer of theirs instead. Trust me on this.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not head anything bad about the STB, but i have about their LCA's and PHB.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dewey316 wrote:
I have not head anything bad about the STB, but i have about their LCA's and PHB.



I've also heard the Edelbrock Torque arms like to snap.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well... me.. edelbrock.. dont really get along so i dont think ill be buying their products.. i havent really had the greatest luck with them.. they suck

Tim

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1997 Z28 PCMforLess tune, K&N CAI, trickflow elbow, 160 thermostat, edelbrock shorty headers, Flowmaster 3", 18" cragars.
Best 1/4 - 13.8 @ 101.98 60' 2.27
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also suggest going with spohn or TDS. I am very satisfied with their products. Depending on what you get, you may find better prices, this is what I did:

Spohn: LCA, PH bar, upper strut mounts, Tq arm (when I get one)

TDS: sway bars (36/24), Wonderbar,

Summit: Poly bushings, Koni red struts/shocks and hothiss springs
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok what about bilstiens HD.. got someone who says they are pretty good for the money... anyone ever used them? also.. i believe im going with the eibach sportlines springs.. so i also want complatible with those also.. maybe i should just learn up on some suspension.. heh

Tim

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1997 Z28 PCMforLess tune, K&N CAI, trickflow elbow, 160 thermostat, edelbrock shorty headers, Flowmaster 3", 18" cragars.
Best 1/4 - 13.8 @ 101.98 60' 2.27
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KYB all the way. Seen em, used em, love em.

You can't beat a KYB for the money! Bilsteins are spendy too like the Konis.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

$324 all the way around is spendy?? hmm i have kyb on my 3rd gen and it was seeming to be ok as i added more stuff i like how it handles better then my 4th gen was just checking though. thanks

Tim

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1997 Z28 PCMforLess tune, K&N CAI, trickflow elbow, 160 thermostat, edelbrock shorty headers, Flowmaster 3", 18" cragars.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can spend the money, get the bilsteins. Better dampers are always worth it.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can spend the money, get coil overs.

(If that isnt what bilsteins are to begin with)

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Midnight Sun wrote:
If you can spend the money, get coil overs.


why? so you can over stress points that were never designed to take that load?
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