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QwkTrip
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1989 Pontiac Firebird
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 Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:28 pm Post subject: Not in tune with current prices. Need advice. |
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Hey, guys. I quit shopping for car parts a long time ago. Most of you are better aware of current prices than me. I want to pull my engine and sell it. What is it worth on the market today? Would it be better to separate the engine, supercharger, and headers?
I'm never going to cut the hood. It's time to get realistic and put the car back on the road with a potent small block.
* 468 big block Chevy
* Crower blower cam
* ARP fasteners
* forged rods, crank, pistons
* 1.7 roller rockers
* roller timing chain
* Fluidampr
* both an SFI flexplate and flywheel
* iron oval ports with mild porting on exhaust
* Manley valves and pushrods
* B&M 177 supercharger (needs rebuild. I'm guessing it is worth $1000.)
* March serpentine pulleys and brackets
* Moroso extended sump oil pan
* custom made Lemons Headers tri-Y (easily worth $800 or more) |
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blue89
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Due to the slow economy and emissions restrictions, your engine will be worth $5. I'll spot you the cash and handle the shipping. PM me for my address  j/k
You have a lot of stuff in that list. I'm guessing at least $3k.
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iansane
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Why not a little trimming on the hood? I've never liked cowls on birds but if it's functional; who cares?
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blue89
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| What if you cut out the part that hits and then finish the edge with rubber hose? I've seen a couple superchargers like that. You're only going to drive it on sunny days, right? |
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QwkTrip
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1989 Pontiac Firebird
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, not cutting the hood guys. The car looks too good to start hacking it up. Truth be told, I've always had money to finish the job. I never did anything all these years because I didn't want to ruin the hood, and at the same time I couldn't part with my engine. I've decided it's all silly. A young boy's dream and I'm not a young boy any more. An iron 6.0L LS engine with 6.2L caddy heads will do the job just fine and fit under the hood.
$3000 is a whole lot lower than I figured. If that is the case then I would definitely be better off parting out the long block from the few higher dollar parts. The engine can go in local papers. I know there will be a brawl at thirdgen.org for the headers. The supercharger can go on e-bay. I'm not sure how I'll go about selling the other accessories but they will store easily on a garage shelf until then. |
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flea
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1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| How about just picking up another hood, and if you really just hate it then swap the motor out for one that will fit and put the original hood back on. If money is not a problem then just pick up an after market hood and test fit it all, give it time to grow on you. If it doesn't then fine pull it and you still have the original hood unmolested. |
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Dewey316
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1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Or, since you have so much invested in the motor already. Why not ditch the supercharge, and use the money from selling it, to go with a big single turbo? |
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QwkTrip
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| flea wrote: | | If money is not a problem then just pick up an after market hood and test fit it all, give it time to grow on you. If it doesn't then fine pull it and you still have the original hood unmolested. |
 Money isn't a problem because I don't waste it in ways like that. |
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QwkTrip
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| Dewey316 wrote: | | Or, since you have so much invested in the motor already. Why not ditch the supercharge, and use the money from selling it, to go with a big single turbo? |
Dewey, there is such thing as too much power.  Seriously, these new LS2 and caddy head flow just as much as big block heads. It just doesn't make sense to go down this path any more. When I got the big block the LS engines were just hitting the streets. They've come a long way since and can do the same thing without hacking up the car. |
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Dewey316
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| QwkTrip wrote: | | there is such thing as too much power. |
UNPOSSIBLE!!!! |
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flea
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Location: Raymond WA
1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| QwkTrip wrote: | | flea wrote: | | If money is not a problem then just pick up an after market hood and test fit it all, give it time to grow on you. If it doesn't then fine pull it and you still have the original hood unmolested. |
Money isn't a problem because I don't waste it in ways like that. |
 and yet another life lesson learned for me. I just though you was rich folk and only messed around with third gens when not waxing your matched set of Aston Martin DB9s. |
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redlava
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:31 am Post subject: |
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why don't you just get a dual plane intake, with a regular carb, would it fit then?
I would say it is worth 4k without the blower or the headers. |
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iansane
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1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| I agree with the Dewman. Swap to a carbstyle intake drilled for port fuel injection and slap a big 'ol turbo on it. BW S475 will make that 177 quiver. |
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QwkTrip
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| redlava wrote: | why don't you just get a dual plane intake, with a regular carb, would it fit then?
I would say it is worth 4k without the blower or the headers. |
Big blocks just don't fit under Firebird hoods. I also was thinking the engine is worth $4K with possibility of getting $6K for the whole thing. |
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aaron_sK
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| QwkTrip wrote: | | redlava wrote: | why don't you just get a dual plane intake, with a regular carb, would it fit then?
I would say it is worth 4k without the blower or the headers. |
Big blocks just don't fit under Firebird hoods. I also was thinking the engine is worth $4K with possibility of getting $6K for the whole thing. |
Honestly, I would shop it out, and see if you get anybody interested.
If not then just stick with it, but if you can sell it and build an LQ4 or something it would be sweet. |
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Demon
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't you say the motor would likely need to be gone through and the super charger needs a rebuild as well? You're not going to get what you expect out of it, because people can make just as much power if not moreso with an LS based engine for less these days...
Put it on Craigs List, you can sell anything there |
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iansane
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Or turbo it. |
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Twilightoptics
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| redlava wrote: | why don't you just get a dual plane intake, with a regular carb, would it fit then?
I would say it is worth 4k without the blower or the headers. |
Because a low compression motor without boost is like a race car with a geo motor.
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DBL_TKE
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| Twilightoptics wrote: | | redlava wrote: | why don't you just get a dual plane intake, with a regular carb, would it fit then?
I would say it is worth 4k without the blower or the headers. |
Because a low compression motor without boost is like a race car with a geo motor. |
Hey now, there's a 13 second Geo that comes out to the track every once in a while. 
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QwkTrip
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Demon wrote: | | Didn't you say the motor would likely need to be gone through and the super charger needs a rebuild as well? |
No, engine is fine. The supercharger is the only part I purchased that needs a little help because the guy that polished it left dust in the bearings. |
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