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aaron_sK

Fired up the newly burnt chip today. Runs decent, but timing is now WAY retarded. Left nice sooty spots on the driveway though.

Hooked up Schultzy's ALDL cable, but every time I opened TunerPro RT I got a BSOD about a COM port error. I'm assuming that the inline switch is for a resistor, but I'm not sure which way to flip it when starting. I assumed that I should flip it towards the blue tape when starting, and then back to log??

Very confused here, but stoked since I kinow the chip is working.

blue89 · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject:

The inline switch is for datalogging or trouble code reading (I think). In TunerPro you need to tell it which port you connected to, it doesn't automatically find it.

What I did was go to the system setting and watch the USB controller. When you plug the ALDL cable in it will pop up as being COM11 or whatever. Just put that into TunerPro.

Sound about right with your problem?

aaron_sK · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:40 pm Post subject:

It's a Serial port cable, not USB, so I don't have a popup on connect.

When I opened TunerProRT it flashed up with the red loading box, and when it got to "Detecting Hardware" it would pause, then flash the BSOD. It was recoverable (not a system crash) but TunerPro would crash.

91RSVert · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject:

When I used TPRT with serial, I had to tell it what port to look in as well(same with usb too). But that didnt cause it to crash.

blue89 · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject:

Mine is different i bet cause I'm USB and also different car computer. I don't autodetect on mine. I just plug it into the same port (COM3) and the click connect on the ALDL button at the top of TunerPro. Autodetect never works on my setup.

Do you have to detect it since its serial? I would imagine nothing changes. old COM ports are still reserved as COM1-3 right? The computer handles it the same USB=Serial, its just faster on USB.

aaron_sK · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject:

The TP default is COM1, which is what I had the ALDL plugged into when I was testing it. The problem is I can't even get in to TunerPro with it connected, which is making me think I'm messing up the cable somehow.

blue89 · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:23 pm Post subject:

There you go. Just jumped out of my ability to help. That sounds more like a Mark question.

have you tried flipping the switch? Does it happen both ways?

91RSVert · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject:

what data system do you run on? 8192 or 160? When I ordered my serial cable, I had to specify.

On my usb setup, I have to flip a switch on the inline box to specify which system I'm reading. Dunno if this will cause system to crash, but I know it will make it so you cant read the ecm.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject:

The switch has to be flipped to datalog. You flip it to engage a 10k resistor. Flip it off after data is being sent.

Never used tunerpro to log or anything so I couldn't tell you.

Soot could also mean rich.

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:55 am Post subject:

^--- What he said.

-Schultzy

Mangus · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject:

What version of TP and what OS? What kind of cable? What vehicle?

aaron_sK · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:10 am Post subject:

Version is the latest, 4.14 I belive.
OS is Windows 98 (not SE)
Cable is home made from Schultz.
Vehicle is a 1987 IROC L98 with a 165 ECM.

I'll try it again tomorrow when I have time to work on it. Been working double shifts so no time to test.

Mangus · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:45 am Post subject:

Download TP again to ensure you have the latest. Start TunerPro with the cable disconnected from the PC. Then connect the cable and go to preferences->ALDL/Emu. Set the COM port to COM1 (if that's where it's connected), then test the cable using the button at the top of that tab. If it works, cool.

For your '165, you'll need the 10K resistor in place. Shultz will need to instruct you on how to do that, since his cable might have it built in.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:16 am Post subject:

Aaron. I built that cable. There should be some colored electrical tape on one side of the switch. Flip the switch toward the color will engage the resistor.

Make sure you've got all 3 pins in the right holes of the ALDL

aaron_sK · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject:

With the new chip installed, I don't get any SES light at all, on key turn or running. If I pull the chip it runs exactly the same as with the chip in, but I get an SES light.

I tried pulling the adaptor and reinstalling the MEMCAL and it works fine. Starts good, SES light goes out like it should.

*Edit: Tried several different chips, tried stacking two 16k files in one chip, tried about four different BIN files,always the same result. SES light will come on for a split second, and then go out, and the car runs in limp-home.

So, did I fry my adaptor or am I just screwing up my burns so they wont take?

Twilightoptics · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject:

It takes a bit of a knack to get it to burn right.

What are you using to burn with and what chips are you running? John and I had some pretty bad luck with the 512 chips. The Atmel 256 chips were tits though.

aaron_sK · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject:

I'm using Moates Burn1 Programmer and Schultzy's old chips marked '29C256'.

I tried installing the burner on my other computer and burning it with no luck either. I know I'm missing some stupid thing, but I've tried everything that I can think of. Bashy Bashy

alloy · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject:

With the 29C256 chips with the Burn1 in chip addressing you have to set the "start address in hex" to 004000, and "end addess in hex" to 007FFF.

In buffer adressing "start address" is 000000. "End address in hex" is 003FFF.

Give this a try and see if it works.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject:

Dan I didn't have to change anything to burn those chips with the burn 1 if they were stacked right from tunerpro.

aaron_sK · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject:

Actually I tried it both ways. I set up my Flash&Burn with those addresses (copied from Moates' site) and when that didn't work I tried stacking two files in TP.

BTW, can you stack two identical files, or do they have to be different filenames?