Cascade Crew

305 302eater · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:51 am Post subject: sagging door

ok was wondering how hard it is to replace the hinge that goes out in our doors... or should i have a body shop do it? and where could i find one... Thanks guys

alloy · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:59 am Post subject:

It's not the hinge, it's the hinge pins. There is a kit by TDS that cures it. Spendy, but cheaper than new hinges. I did this to my left door and couldn't be happier. I did get the greasable kit though.

http://www.top-downsolutions.com/product_info.php?products_id=38

You also might want to consider getting this tool. Makes removing and reinstalling the detent spring easy.

http://www.top-downsolutions.com/product_info.php?products_id=88

chevymad · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:07 am Post subject:

The upper hinge is welded on. But you can buy a rebuild kit from Lon at www.top-downsolutions.com They're kind of spendy. I went with the non greasable kit myself. Figured if the first time lasted 275k miles, why would I need a greasable unit. The lower hinge rebuild kit is cheap, and you can pick it up at most parts stores.

chevymad · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:08 am Post subject:

Looks like Dan beat me to it.

305 302eater · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:46 am Post subject:

cool thanks guys... mine isn't to bad yet but i will do it now... Thanks again Smile

Al Hasse · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:10 am Post subject:

Doing the same thing with the 89 shortly. I have the pins to put in, just need to recruit some help to hold the door straight while I loosen the upper hinge (if needed). Using the floor jack to lift the rear edge of the door.

Xophertony · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject:

an engine hoist helps. Very Happy

i installed the greasable hinge kit on the drivers door of the six a few years ago. one piece of advice, do not get the "deluxe kit" that comes with the grease gun, the grease gun is a piece of garbage, it broke before i put one tube of grease through it. i have the second hinge kit still, i am planing on installing it on the drivers door of the GTA, then i was going to buy two no greasable ones for the passenger doors of both cars.

another piece of advice, using the dremel tool for this SUCKED, find a better tool. it is too small for a grinder to fit, but there must be something....

blue89 · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject:

How did you pound the pins out? Mine are kinda stuck in there and I can't seem to get leverage on it.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject:

blue89 · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject:

that has to be the fastest response to a post I've ever seen! Way to stay on it! lol.

alloy · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject:

Xophertony · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:05 am Post subject:

i spent about 4 hours with the dremel. i went through like three bits.... Sad

alloy · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:59 am Post subject:

Xophertony · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:06 am Post subject:

i think i might have to buy a die grinder. Cool

chevymad · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:15 am Post subject:

I used my craftsman roto-tool. It will hold die grinder bits, and also has a flex shaft that holds dremel type bits. Has alot more power then a die grinder. I used it for porting my heads on the truck too.

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?cat=Portable+Power+Tools&pid=00917246000&vertical=TOOL&subcat=Rotary+%26+Spiral+Cutting+Tools&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes

Xophertony · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:51 am Post subject:

nice. if/when i buy one it will be the most expensive tool i have ever purchased. Shocked

*EDIT*
wait.. .3 jaw chuck... would an electric drill be able to use the same bits? i could get a "die grinder" bit for an electric drill and acomplish the same thing right?

chevymad · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:48 pm Post subject:

An electric drill turns about 2k rpm. A die grinder turns 20-30k. You'd be all day trying to get a drill to grind anything.

BTW the tool can be had for $59. But it doesnt come with any of the cool attachments. I bought mine on a sale for $79 then bought the flex attachment later. You can also get a right angle grinder/cutter attachment. That I dont have but wish i did. Looks like a nice panel cutter.

Xophertony · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject:

cool. 20-30K rpm is nice. i think my drill needs a transmission. Very Happy

thanks for the advice Brandon, i more question, where can i get this tool for 59$ ?

EDIT
Duh

without all the "16-in-one" stuff it's way cheaper.

Al Hasse · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject:

Did the driver's door today. $6 for the pin & bushings and $10-$15 for a spring tool. Used a floor jack to lift the trailing edge of the door, undid the upper hinge, then got the door positioned so the pin loose in the hole (really bad sag), and pulled the pin up with a set of channel-lock pliers. Looks like I have to replace the detent roller now too, it doesn't roll.

For those looking to do this, the pin & bushings are in the "HELP!" section, the ones they sell for our cars is part # 38402. That was too small for my car and I had to use the oversized kit, part # 38407. I also highly advise getting a door spring tool, makes life much easier.

aaron_sK · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject:

Al, is that kit comperable to the TDS kit? I can't imagine for that price it would be. Confused