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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject: Now this scares me...gps, cars, taxes and such. |
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http://www.oregonlive.com/oregonian/stories/index.ssf?/base/news/1175927213135480.xml&coll=7&thispage=1
Just something to keep on the minds of everyone, Oregon really wants to push something like this through. Hopefully this will come down to a vote of the people. This whole thing just scares me.
If this whole GPS tracking goes into effect, I guess I will be forced to become a citizan of WA. _________________
"Ever see a Motorcycle in front of a Psychiatrists Office?" Me neither |
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Jenn Member

Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 362 Location: hangin with my boys
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| hmmm... would like to read more but I only got through the first page of it. they want to know gender, age and location just to read the entire story! |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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i am voting NO!!!
| Quote: | | volunteers were told that information about when their cars were in the state of Oregon, or inside the Portland metro area, could be subpoenaed in a criminal investigation. |
unacceptable violation of my right to privacy.
| Quote: | | "To me, it just feels like a way to get around taxpayer approval of increased gas taxes," Kennedy said. |
Oregon Voters long ago decided that ANY and ALL tax laws had to be voted in or out by the people for a damn good reason. this is unacceptable.
| Quote: | | [the millage tax is]designed to be revenue neutral at 20 mpg. Cars with better gas mileage paid more under the mileage tax than they would have under the gas tax. |
soooo... Oregon is going to punish those with high millage and good for the environment cars, while lessoning the tax burden on those of us that have 15MPG 350 v8s? does this seem totally {edit} messed up {end edit] to anyone else? why don't they just increase the gas tax that way the lower millage cars continue to pay a higher tax burden then hybrids and such. i know that means I will pay more in taxes but i am ok with that. why, because it's fair thats why.
| Quote: | | [one volunteer] also worried about someone breaking into her car because the device, mounted on the dashboard, was a invitation for thieves. |
wait, this stupid ugly thing mounts inside my car where it will be ruining the aesthetics of my digital dash. not on my watch.
EDIT** BTW jenn, you don't have to tell the truth. type 97225 (portland west hills) male and 1910. thats what i did. only because it would not accept 1810.
*Note: Please pay attention to the forum rules. I am sure it was just a moment of passion but please refrain from posting profanity. Thanks!* |
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Jenn Member

Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 362 Location: hangin with my boys
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I know I don't have to tell the truth but it's the principal, ya know |
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rjmcgee The Hammer

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 2328
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Jenn wrote: | | I know I don't have to tell the truth but it's the principal, ya know |
She has never told a lie.  |
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Kage87Z Member

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 436 Location: 12 Second Club
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Yet another reason why I do everything I can to stay out of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Oregon and its Soviet capital, Portland. _________________ "Are you guys ready? Let's roll."
Todd Beamer - 9/11
Never Forget
My 69's story: http://myspace.com/69camaro454
My 87 Z/28's tale of woah... http://myspace.com/87Zcamaro383 |
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NHRA427 Member
Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 105 Location: Harrisburg Oregon
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Funny thing is people that drive the heavy pickups that tow trailers, get half the mileage and damage the roads more then a Camaro will pay the same as the Camaro per mile. Also the government makes the new cars get better mileage and now the aren't getting enough money. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, you're all forgetting one very important thing: Any time your car (purposfully) loses traction, you'd be paying for milage you never drove. Kinda ruins the fun of smokeshows, doesn't it?  |
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| its GPS, it isn't based on your speedo, or tires. |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"

Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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This thing is BS either way. Granted it will keep more people from doing unnecessary driving, the whole approach is just not right. _________________
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305 302eater Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 604 Location: port orchard
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Sucks for you guys. I hope washington doesn't think of doing something like that. I don't like the gps thing. _________________ Thirdgenless |
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NHRA427 Member
Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 105 Location: Harrisburg Oregon
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I dont think it will ever happen. Look at the cost of something like this. The gps units, gas pumps and dmv problems. Then there is the problem with people bypassing it. what are they going to have service centers to install and calibrate. Will people put in a switch to turn them off? they will have to be on 24-7. If it gets turned off will it throw a signal to the cops to come check it out? Seems to be so many problems with the idea. Also the state doesnt have to have a vote on it to get it passed. Its not a new tax just a different way of getting the money so they can just do it. |
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NHRA427 Member
Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 105 Location: Harrisburg Oregon
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe they will install them like the breath analyzers. Car wont start unless the gps is working. That would be great for tow companys. |
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Sellmanb Member
Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 727 Location: Tigard, OR
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| NHRA427 wrote: | | Maybe they will install them like the breath analyzers. Car wont start unless the gps is working. That would be great for tow companys. |
If there's a will there's a way...  |
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BigDaddyVu 12sec Club

Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 1118 Location: Spokane, Wa
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I live in a america where i pump my own fuel. |
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Demon 12sec Club

Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 1189 Location: You're not worthy
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| BigDaddyVu wrote: | | I live in a america where i pump my own fuel. | thankfully I live in an america that allows me to be a dick to people with improper grammar.
what is gas costing up there, regular and premium? down here they're nearing $3 a gallon again for premium...
goddamned LS1 and its high compression  |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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It just spiked around here and regular is at $3/gal  |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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$3.09/3.19/3.29 near my Dad's house, $3.01 at the station next to where I work.
I'm starting to get fond memories of last year before I had the IROC tuned up. $3.45 for premium at 9mpg. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:37 am Post subject: |
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| the way the article describes the device it seems to me youcould just leave it home. one tester talked of removing it from her car while leaving the car parked outside. |
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pathology knight Member
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 306 Location: entiat, WA.
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: |
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gas is high 2.90's down here in tri-cities....for regular 87.  _________________ we all gotta start somewhere.... |
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