Cascade Crew

blue89 · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:40 am Post subject: TunerPro Setup

I downloaded TunerPro, the Super_8dm2.ecu and 1227730_8D.ads files (all for my 90-92 SD V6 car).

Now what do I do?

I figured out how to get the files loaded into tunerpro and I can play with the values, but I have no idea how to make it burn to a chip or how to read the current values from a chip.

Do I have to use different software to do that? I have a prom burner and an ALDL port adapter thing. Both by Moates i think. Thanks!

Dewey316 · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:57 am Post subject:

I haven't used the new versions of TP. YOu should be able to make your bin, then stack it and save it, then burn with moates software.

blue89 · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:41 am Post subject:

Will Flash'n Burn work? Whats "stacking"?

Dewey316 · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:02 am Post subject:

if you are using a moates adaptor, for the 32k chips, then you have to stack your bin, since you bit will not be a full 32k. (or you can adjust the offset in the chip burning software). When you have a 32k bin, you should be able to burn that via the software that came with your moates burner. (I don't know the name of his software).

Hopefully Paul and Mangus will pop in here, they can probably explain it better.

blue89 · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:53 am Post subject:

K, I got the goods working. I'd like some definetions if I could.

What are the following files:

xdf
ecu
bin

bin is the raw data from the chip.
xdf is the mask that assigns names for the numbers
whats ecu? I'm confused.....

Dewey316 · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject:

ecu is the same as xdf (but a diffrent format), it is a deffinition file.

blue89 · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject:

I'm pretty sure I have the 730 ecu. So I should be able to load the 730.ecu file and it should have the bin and mask?

I'm loading info from

ftp://ftp.diy-efi.org/pub/gmecm/bins/1227730/
http://tunerpro.net/downloadBinDefs.htm

Am i on the right path?

Dewey316 · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject:

No.

You need the definition file, to read the bins data. YOu need a .bin file, you can get it online, or get it from the chip in the car. Then you need EITHER a .ecu file, or .xdf file. The definition files just tell tunerpro how to read the .bin file.

blue89 · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:04 pm Post subject:

But if you have an unknown bin then you're out of luck to find a xdf for it, right? So I either load the bin from the chip in the car (which has already been tweeked) or I find one, but then I can use a 730 xdf and it should read it just fine?

blue89 · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject:

I'm having a hell of a time finding the right xdf to read ANY bin that I've found on either tunerpro or diyefi. I'm going to take the prom out of my car, read it, and hopefully get the right xdf (mask) for it. I'll report later what I find out.

Dewey316 · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:11 pm Post subject:

the 730 xdf file, just reads bins for 730 ECU's, there are a lot of diffrent .bin files for each computer, you need the right .bin file for your engine and car. Then you use the xdf or ecu file in tunerpro to read the data.

blue89 · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:32 am Post subject:

Where can I find a bin and ecu file that match online? I think I'm having troubles with my reader or software. I went to the diy-efi.com/gmecm ftp page and tried to load the 730_atta.ecu file and then tried to read the aujp.bin and nothing looks right. The spark table is all messed up. Are there settings that I need to change in TunerPro?

blue89 · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:55 am Post subject:

blue89 · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:58 am Post subject:

I found the V6 bins on

http://www.moates.net/fileman/index.php?dir=1)%20Stock%20Binaries/DIY-EFI%20GMECM%20Binaries/1227730%20727%2001%20A1%203E%2046%2051%2055%206B%2088%208D%2096%20D8/01%202.8%20V6[/url]

(User = moatesuser
Password = moatespassword) This is good news for me because all the V8 bins are 32k while the V6 is only 4k! I thought something was wrong. Cool beans.

Does anyone know how to pick the right files? I'm still trying to find the right xdf file. They are listed in a hex? Does anyone make a guide for this so I can pick the right one? Otherwise I'm going to have to try them all out.

Magman · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:46 pm Post subject:

I'm using TunerPro also, not a whiz kid but I'm getting by. What I did to create my XDF was:
>Open TP
>click the header tab "XDF"
>import > from ECU

from there, go back and locate the ecu file and select it. TP converts it and viola...it works.

Hope that helps

Magman

Dewey316 · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject:

Were is Mangus when you really need him!

blue89 · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:38 am Post subject:

I did that, but what I couldn't find were the right V6 bins. I still dont have the one that hacks the code in the car, so I'm nervous that my burner quit working right. It should be that 88.xdf but the spark table is still all messed up. It just sucks cause I can't overwrite the chip I have since I need the vats disabled. Plus I don't want to overwrite the V8 bin on the other chip cause its so unique. Dunno what to do.

RSFreak · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject:

I had the bins for the '730 ecm V6 cars on my harddrive that crashed a few months ago. Search TGO in the DIY Prom section and you'll be pointed in the right direction. Search for posts by 'Doward'. He did the '730 ecm swap and had posted quite a bit of info. One of the linked sights has a bin locator. I've got Flash n Burn also, but haven't used it yet (since I haven't done the '730 swap yet) except to read the bin from my old TBI prom.

blue89 · Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:07 am Post subject:

I found the "correct" bins but I'm still only reading 4k. I'm nervous to overwrite my current chips for fear of loosing the data. I think maybe I should purchase a new Flash'n Burn.

RSFreak · Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject:

Use Flash n Burn to read the current chips and save their bins and then overwrite them. Maybe?