Cascade Crew

[miamivice]

i hate my life, why do i have such crappy luck

so if you followed the other thread, youd know what happened in the last 2 weeks. i had to pay a shop to get it all fiixed and put back togeather, when they called me and i went in the guy asked if i had a cam in it...i said jsut the stock one and he told me the idle was a bit messed up. he said it could either be the o2 sensor or maybe one of the fuel injectors wasnt spraying gas but just dumping gas in. he did not inform me it would be a huge problem and i paid my 932 dollars of hard earned money and drove the car about a half a block home.

well, drove the car to work today (only means of transportation). sitting at trafic lights it would only be at like 500 rpm (and the guage would fluxuate...dont think it used to do that, and before it was much higher.)

now, its 10:30, i clock off and go outside...get in and fire it up, which it does, but after a few seconds it just stalls out. im stuck here and im pissed....and i really dont have the money to pay them another grand to fix it...... any ideas????

[Xophertony]

uhhhm.. kinda sounds like a fuel pump.. maybe. low idle. then starts and dies right off. you could do the ol'e "push on the schrader valve" fuel pressure test to see if you got a good fuel pump.

[Dewey316]

Sounds like spark. I would make sure the car was timed with the ESC disconnected.

[iansane]

[miamivice]

[iansane]

If the SES light comes on and stays on, then it means there is a code stored. Then they can pull it to get a good idea of what's wrong.

Grab a paperclip and do the ALDL trick. Have you done that before?

[miamivice]

nope. ive heard people talk about it but dont know what it does.

[Sellmanb]

miamivice, http://thirdgen.org/techbb2/showthread.php?s=&threadid=315801&highlight=ALDL


that thread has vader explaining (in great detail) how to pull codes from your ALDL, and there's a link to what the codes mean. All you need is a paper clip.

From there we should be able to help you out!

Best of luck!

-Bobby

[miamivice]

soooo, this is what happened today.

i left a note w/ the shop in the morning w/ the keys. basicly i said that they did not fix the car like they said which caused me to get stuck at work....and that i needed it fixed properly and i need it asap so i can get to school and work. i call at 8am to see if they go the not, the shop manger said he was gonna have the tech look at it. well the shop manager calls me back at 4pm......the regular shop manager who i usually deal w/ was on vacation (just my luck) so there was some other guy who didnt know the situation on the phone w/ me which sucked.

anyways, he basicly said they spent a few hours w/ it and that they tracked down the problem to one of the injectors. injector number 3. they said that it was leaking gas...and that once it sits for a while gas just drips down into the cylender and that causes it to stall. he said there could be other injectors too, but they are for sure that is one. he also said they would have to do a drip down test too, really they would have to spend another couple hours doing diagnostics to see what all is the problem.
now, obviously i did not have this problem prior to everything that has happened. the injectors are the same ones as before. why would they all of a sudden be leaking?
if you reve the engine when your first turn it on and get all the gas out the car can be uhh "drivable" but obviously that isnt normal. and i told himt hat i need the car to be drivable in a sense that i can just throw the keys to anyone and they should be able to drive the car.

i didnt really authorize any work, i didnt sign anything. now i think he is trying to charge me for all the shizzle they did today, PLUS all the other work they have to do to get it running. WTF, is this legit????
if they have to change the injectors they have to take the plenum and all that stuff off i JUST paid them to put back on twice couldnt they have checked these before they did it all.

this sucks

[Mangus]

I could fix it for you in about and hour and a half, and I'll throw in a set of 8 injectors.

Provided you don't have tall valve covers, you only need to remove the plenum and runners to get the fuel rail out (30-40 minutes total). Pull the rail, remove the injectors (8 clips and 8 good pulls), re-assemble, and call it done.

Unplug the bad injector and see if it runs.

The only thing I'd worry about is if the bad injector (if that's really what it is), is dumping fuel down the cylinder walls, it's getting into your oil, which will thin the oil out.

I'm sure there's a bad injector on it, but I'm not convinced a bad injector would cause it to stall out (in fact, I've driven my ~5000 miles on a bad injector). One cylinder misfiring or otherwise acting up isn't typically enough to cause these problems. Maybe there is more than one injector giving you issues.

[miamivice]

sent you a PM

[miamivice]

and just sent you another

[Mangus]

Dude, your car is cursed. That was a nightmare.

Don't forget to go to order SVO 24lb injectors from Jegs. You might also want to pick up some spare clips (MSD 121-2110).

When we have a nice weekend day and no pressure to do the work, we can swap out the injectors and then focus on other issues (potential vacuum leaks, etc).

[miamivice]

got home last night ok and checked for leaks, only thing that was leaking was that coolant hose. ill pick up one of those clamps.

still backfired, or whatever that sound was we heard last night when we first started it up. did it both times i started it today. ill order those injectors tonight.

thanks alot for the help

[Sellmanb]

[Dewey316]

Bobby,

The guy who is working with him (Mangus), is the guy who writes the software we ALL use to burn chips.

[Sellmanb]

Oh hah! Well .... nevermind then

[miamivice]

alright, i went to the jegs site and could find any SVO ones (i assume that is the brand????). it looks like tey have 8 packs accel, holley, and venom ones though that are 24lbs


i did find these on summit racing though:

http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=partdetail.asp&autofilter=1&part=MSD%2D2110&N=115+%2D160483&autoview=sku

[Mangus]

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?lang=-1&catalogId=10002&storeId=10001&categoryId=17695

[miamivice]

injectors and clips have been ordered...
should be here in a couple days.