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sheltonw3 Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:25 pm Post subject: Water pump removal? |
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Does anyone know what to use to remove a stripped Torx screw I really need to remove a water pump to replace the seal???...I to remove it and need to get this done before Monday!!!
Thanx in advance* _________________ Its not a question of how fast can it go?...its a question of how fast do you wish it to go? |
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sheltonw3 Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, got it figured out, gotta get a Irwin Bit removal set, but now the lovely rain has halted me until another dry day* _________________ Its not a question of how fast can it go?...its a question of how fast do you wish it to go? |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Those Irwin extractors are pretty awesome. Looks like things have cleared off tonight. Nothing but stars out there now. So your dry day should be coming. |
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sheltonw3 Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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I tried the Irwin bits, they failed* ...next step>>> Dremel The Bolt Head into a square and remove it* _________________ Its not a question of how fast can it go?...its a question of how fast do you wish it to go? |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have one of those impact drivers that you hammer on? Usually used for screws. If you use that and the Irwin socket they grab pretty good. |
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aaron_sK Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Cutting the bolt head into something more grabable will likely not work. You will soften the steel by heating it with your grinder and it will just twist off.
Honestly, I don't even think the Irwins can be made to work, despite Brandon's confidence.
The last time I ran into one of those bolts was on John's '89 V6 car. After exhausting several clever but less brutal ideas, I ended up cutting straight through the side of the waterpump and into the shank of the bolt with a cutoff wheel to get it off. ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
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sheltonw3 Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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I most likely will use a cut off wheel, but right now I am having a devil of a time trying to remove the power steering mount to gain access the very last bolt that is trapped behind the power steering mount, my Chiltons manual is not showing me too much* ![Evil or Very Mad](images/smiles/icon_evil.gif) _________________ Its not a question of how fast can it go?...its a question of how fast do you wish it to go? |
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sheltonw3 Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Which two bolts??? ![Confused](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) _________________ Its not a question of how fast can it go?...its a question of how fast do you wish it to go? |
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aaron_sK Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Okay looking at the diagram again it is three bolts and a nut. 4, 6, 10, and 11. |
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sheltonw3 Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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I just tried to remove the #6 bolt, but its a no go, it's in a tight spot, between the metal hose and motor mount*...my hand and fore arm are too big to allow me to get there, the only real way to remove this bolt is with a remote camera and monitor and impact wrench! _________________ Its not a question of how fast can it go?...its a question of how fast do you wish it to go? |
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aaron_sK Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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Braille it with a socket on an extension.
Or pull both nuts marked 3 and pull the whole pump away from the engine. |
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sheltonw3 Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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aaron_sK wrote: | Braille it with a socket on an extension.
Or pull both nuts marked 3 and pull the whole pump away from the engine. |
Tried that too...Nothing* ![Confused](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) _________________ Its not a question of how fast can it go?...its a question of how fast do you wish it to go? |
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sheltonw3 Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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There was one guy who mastered pulling The Chevy Engines apart, but he moved out of our area!...The guy pulled my water pump out in like 20 minutes, I don't know where he moved to! _________________ Its not a question of how fast can it go?...its a question of how fast do you wish it to go? |
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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sheltonw3 wrote: | Tried that too...Nothing* ![Confused](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) |
The secret to bolts is righty tighty lefty loosey ![Thumbs up](images/smiles/icon_thumbsup.gif) |
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aaron_sK Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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QwkTrip wrote: | sheltonw3 wrote: | Tried that too...Nothing* ![Confused](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) |
The secret to bolts is righty tighty lefty loosey ![Thumbs up](images/smiles/icon_thumbsup.gif) |
I don't know if I can resort to Jon's jokes, but I am not sure what more advise I can offer. If you think you have removed all of the bolts from a part and it is not loose then you have not yet removed all of the bolts.
Removing parts from a car is not some mystical skill of great gurus, I used to do it while I was drunk. I pulled both aluminum accessory mounts off of a smallblock today; took me ten minutes (I was not drunk). I'm not saying it was the easiest job in the world, but with a basic set of tools and an electric impact gun it took me ten minutes. I had to use a wobble and braille a couple, but that's just part of the job. |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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You just need to put on a set of gloves and yank on it, man. You can also put a large box end wrench over the end of the ratchet handle to put some serious force to it. |
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aaron_sK Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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A stripped Torx is not going to be unstripped with more force.
So says the Chevy guru who can take bolts out.
Okay, so I did resort to making jokes.
Dammit! |
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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I think he's on to a different bolt now. |
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sheltonw3 Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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I'll be resorting to Galvanized Sockets , since the most stubborn bolt broke a socket bit* bits & Pieces!...K-Mart Sucks* _________________ Its not a question of how fast can it go?...its a question of how fast do you wish it to go? |
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