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fiveoformula
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You found your dream truck! and quick too. lol So dare I ask, you have the Toy for mileage, the diesel for towing, etc.... Whats the need for the 1/2 ton?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Less 'dream' truck and more 'settle' truck, but yeah. Laughing

I am selling the diesel. There was a time when I was really using it, however I haven't done anything with it in nearly two years that this F-150 couldn't readily do. The only time I ever fire it up is when I need to haul lumber longer than 8' or any sheet goods, and the F-150 can do all that piddly crap and not cost me $4/gal in fuel or need $80 oil changes.

In addition the F-250 has, as Gabe put it, a large maintenance debt. To be usable it would need brakes ($400) balljoints ($120) and a windshield ($250). Down the road a ways you're looking at needing new tires ($1200) an injection pump ($1000) a flexplate ($50 but a PITA job) and the bed will need to be replaced (seams splitting).

Don't catch me wrong, I'm not one of those guys who spouts off about how his half-ton gasser will do anything a diesel 1-ton will do because of internet math. I know I'm downgrading my capacity, but I'm also downgrading my maintenance overhead and my operating costs.

Bottom line: F-250 needs more in maintenance done to it than I have into the F-150 including the purchase price, and I don't really use it, so it as a pragmatist I must sell it.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find this quite humorous as you've harped on so many people for getting a "gasser work truck," and now you're getting rid of your diesel! Stranger yet I just got one. :OP
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't think I'm above appreciating my own ironic decisions! Laughing


Twilightoptics wrote:
Stranger yet I just got one.


Squint Looked like just a motor on a test skid to me. Is there more you're up to, Paul?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its in its home now. A workhorse. Nothing performance about it. Lol.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is anyone here building anything for performance anymore?

This should be the Ford and Jeep forum. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are pretty much all the reasons I couldn't justify owning a big diesel truck, Id just never use it how it should be used.

Where practically a Jeep and Ford truck forum along with chevy oil consumption descussion and theory. Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm putting a 6.9 diesel in a 58 F100, short bed 2wd. Low and slow. 4 spd main box and a 3 spd aux trans behind that, nothing cooler than twin sticks in a low rider, lol. Ultimate goal is with a 3.00 ish rear gear to be turning about 1300 rpm at 60 mph, with out sacraficing performance, hense the brownie transmission.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Performance comes later with a twin turbo setup
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this one
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice!

Are you going to try to tow with it? Or this this solely a burnout machine?

That may even be too little gear for the 6.9. Mine seems happiest around 2200, but that's with a torque converter and a lot more weight. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aaron, you're banned from saying anything bad about my F150 for the next 6 months.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a deal!


...Unless your truck breaks down.


...or Ford releases another TSB.

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, if I break down then the ban is lifted. Laughing
TSB's don't count. I never have those done anyway unless it's causing me problems.

Just an observation.... but who's repairing their truck right now and who's not? Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's going to be a really cool truck, Rod. Keep us posted. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QwkTrip wrote:
TSB's don't count. I never have those done anyway unless it's causing me problems.


Ford's idea of a fix is to glue a big piece of tin over the intercooler, so I can't say I blame you.

QwkTrip wrote:
Just an observation.... but who's repairing their truck right now and who's not? Razz


209K and it needed a manifold gasket, valve cover gasket, power steering pump and possibly an injector cleaning. I'd say that's not bad at all.

Has an EcoBoost made it past the 200K mark yet? Google is useless for this. It just shows people asking if it will do it, not anyone who has.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost anything can get 200k miles now days. Hell even a K car. Some days I don't have anything in the shop with less then 300k, its amazing.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ford's fixes are better than CAT! (sorry Jon)
Laughing


I remember something about I think the C15 engine leaking oil at the head gasket and the fix was to take "CAT Epoxy" and literally seal the outside of the head to the block.

When that didn't work, then you got to do the head gasket!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the CAT epoxy like jb weld for gaskets? Back in highschool a friend had a cvcc civic that ate head gaskets til he used some kinda CAT cement and glued the head on.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically. Cat seems to love their goo.

But this was on the outside, not on the gasket itself! lol

The cvccs are nuts. Something about like 20:1 AFR for fuel mileage gets things a little toasty in the combustion chamber

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