Cascade Crew

iansane · Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:18 pm Post subject:

Niiiiiiccceeee.....

QwkTrip · Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:45 pm Post subject:

Dyno days are going to get more interesting around here. Cool

DBL_TKE · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:33 am Post subject:

Yes they will. Though my car won't be making it to 2014 dyno day that's for sure. I don't plan to do just a plain N/A swap. It's an L33, aluminum block 5.3 that I picked it up for next to nothing, the guy said it was a pull out from his friends truck at a dealership. He didn't seem to know much about the reason why it was pulled so I'm not taking any chances. I'm going to do a simple rebuild on it. All stock components and I'll use some good rod and main bearings along with ARP rod bolts, main bolts and head studs. I plan on doing a single turbo setup with a Borg Warner S400. Hp goal will be 500hp minimum at the wheels.

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:17 am Post subject:

You will do that by four grand with the S400. That's a big turbo.

317 heads on the motor?

What are you doing for trans and axle?

Don't spend much on the L33. I'd check the pan and if it looks good I would just run it with head studs and LS9's. It will easily make enough power to break everything behind it, so save your money.

DBL_TKE · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:47 pm Post subject:

243 heads. According to the calculators I've used, ZR1 injectors will be too small. I plan on using 60lb injectors and dual Walbro 255's.

QwkTrip · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:47 pm Post subject:

I called Fuel Injection Connection and they helped make a selection for me. Ended up with modern Bosch injectors with faster response times than LS1 for better idle quality with large injectors. Also have room for growth above 120 lb/hr so I won't have to buy another set if I supercharge. Available in LS1 tall body or LS3 short body. I got the tall body because it works better with some of the fuel rail options with aftermarket intake.

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:25 pm Post subject:

The more I think about this the less sense it makes.

Is this turbo something that was already kicking around and you need a home for it? If you haven't bought it yet why are you going so big? Do you want to turn this thing into an 800hp drag car when you get bored of the auto-x track?

By the time that thing spools you will be at the next turn. Ian's LM7 with the same T70 I have will make nearly the horse numbers you want and with a lot less lag.

DBL_TKE · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:17 pm Post subject:

No, it's becaus I know numerous people with this exact setup and most are making around 600hp and running high 10's in the mid 130's in the 1/4. Seems to be a tried a true setup. I know this turbo should be good for much more but the bang for the buck can't be denied.

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:47 pm Post subject:

A $1200-$1600 turbo doesn't exactly scream 'bang for the buck' to me, but if you got a deal on one more power to you (no pun intended Smile

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What specs on your buddies' cars and turbos? What covers? T4 or T6? If I had that big of a turbo and a V8 and was only running high tens I know I'd be pissed. Laughing

iansane · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:07 pm Post subject:

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't bring my pinwheel of a turbo into this. Very Happy

I haven't done any real forethought to this build/part choice other than, "Hey, this looks like a good deal!" Laughing

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:15 pm Post subject:

iansane · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:25 pm Post subject:

Nope. Ellis has been insanely busy lately. End of season rush or something. I was going to try calling him but got sucked into work.

Have a link to the .68 build? I can't imagine anyone else using such a small turbo. Laughing

aaron_sK · Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:56 am Post subject:

DBL_TKE · Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:25 am Post subject:

There's sources where you can pick up an S400 for $600. Though I'm still looking at alternatives because I've only seen that setup with an automatic. I haven't seen anyone run one with a T56. Ian, why don't you just come down to Vancouver and have Tom Wong or Lucas English or Jason Oefelein tune it? I'd choose either of those guys over just about anyone on the west coast.

DBL_TKE · Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:18 am Post subject:

Here's one of them...

http://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1618256-turbo-5-3l-69-firebird-586whp-497tq-th400-stock-motor.html

He's trapped over 135 now and is making 633hp these days. Another guy I know has an s400 and 5.3 in an 80's Malibu wagon. He's gone mid 10's at over 130 as well.

iansane · Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:28 am Post subject:

aaron_sK · Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:16 pm Post subject:

Twilightoptics · Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:23 pm Post subject:

Yeah Ian. Have Lucas English tune your car. You'll run fast, it'll sound like crap, and your bumper will be black. But hey, it's all about the numbers right? Rolling Eyes

aaron_sK · Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:53 pm Post subject:

DBL_TKE · Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:56 pm Post subject:

The car will not be an autocross car anymore, at least not competitively. What I'm doing would be way too impractical for that. its a slammed car thats an inch off the ground. truth be told it will be a street car that will see a lot of roll racing. But I want to do 1/2 mile drags, possibly some drifting events for fun, HPDE's and eventually Open Road Racing. In reality I would expect to see over 600hp at the wheels but I'm just setting a low "goal" because I could settle for 500hp and be happy for awhile.

and BTW Aryon's Firebird just ran a 9.98@136mph this morning hitting the rev limiter in 1st and 2nd. I'd be happy if I get anywhere near that.

Paul, what do you have against Lucas? He's set a good handful of world records with some of the cars he's built and tuned.