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Part 4: You guys, seriously, you guys!
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aaron_sK
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twilightoptics wrote:
There should be some other badass pictures in there Aaron......


Alright, alright! Laughing

Progress abounds as I spent the day of Presidents tinkering on my POS:


-Throttle body:

GM put a huge center pillar in the middle of the RWD throttle bodies. It is purported to direct air into the MAF sensor but none of the FWD cars had it, so I don't know. Regardless it went bye-bye:



I haven't done any porting work really and I am curious what you guy's would recommend I use to get the rest of that crap out of there. Some sort of long-shank carbide, maybe? I'm not sure what type of bits to buy or where to get them so any suggestions are appreciated.


-Alternator bracket and heater hose outlets:

GM used a silly routing system on the 3800 that ran the heater coolant through the alternator bracket as a ways of cooling the alternator. On the FWD cars this makes sense because it's way at the back of the engine bay but I have no idea why they carried it over to the RWD cars other than avoiding extra tooling.

The lower heater hose had to go for sure because it ran smack into the turbo. The upper hose was retained because the way it exits the intake manifold would have required a lot of cutting and fabbing for no discernible gain. I did remove the silly factory twist-lock attachment in favor of a good old-fashioned hose barb:



The 1/8" pipe plug is blocking a crossover that cycled coolant past the alternator even with the heater off. With half the system removed it was merely plugged. The rest of the assembly was cut off and clearanced.


-Intercooler brackets:

The factory radiator support has a lip on it for structural integrity and so I needed to make some sort of standoffs to hold the IC up a bit like so:


Installed. Crappy pic but you get the basic idea:


I will have to clearance the air dam around the nuts but this is the basic plan:


As promised the duct tape was replaced by actual bolts: Razz




-Hood latch:

Set the hood on it, adjusted for height and ran smack into another problem... because of course there is another problem. Razz



No way that factory pull is going to work. I can still use the rest of the latch but I am going to have to build something else to act as the secondary catch.

The hood latch itself has a lot of adjustment in it for height and parallel. The only real trick seems to be getting the angle forward and back:


You can see my basic plan for the latch:


I dorked that latch mount up cutting and bending on it, but there's plenty of 'em around and this was more a proof-of-concept (which seems to work well).


-Serpentine belt:

These cars never came without aircon as far as I can tell. I think some of the early cars may have had a delete pulley but that's of no use to us since there's a motor mount and turbo in the way. Laughing

First step is to replace the 3" tensioner pulley with a 3.5" for added deflection. I forget what that pulley came off of, I think it's a supercharger idler:



That allows you to run a 61" belt (61.2 as I recall) like so:


That picture leads us into our next topic:


-Welding porn:

I know Paul is eager to show off his excellent TIG skills and I wont disappoint him any further: Very Happy




The driver's side comes pretty close to the water pump outlet but with this tight 90* piece and maybe a bit of insulation on the pipe right there I think it will be fine:


More to come...
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Twilightoptics
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YAY!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Badass! When does the wiring start? Wink

Also, since it's been on my mind lately, do you have room to run spark plugs with those headers? It looks kinda close.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should have tons of room. The plug wholes are pretty deep. If he runs NGK I doubt there will be a problem with 90deg boots.



The real question is, did I guess rotation right for the Turbo to fit your non-screwed up chassis this time?!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alphius wrote:
Badass! When does the wiring start? Wink


My next project is the oil pan, then start on wiring.

Twilightoptics wrote:
holes are pretty deep.


Yup. LMAO

All of the plug holes are wide open except for the rear passenger side (farthest left in the first header picture) which looks like it will work but may need the header loosened so it will drop into the hole far enough to start. We shall see once I have the correct plugs in hand to test.

Twilightoptics wrote:
The real question is, did I guess rotation right for the Turbo to fit your non-screwed up chassis this time?!


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note to all:

Do not build custom stuff on a chassis that is fubar. It doesn't always transfer over to a chassis that is not fubar.

That is all.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to see progress man. Tacoma screw is your shop for carbide die grinder bits. They will make short work of the obstructions in the MAF. I have a die grinder and bits, more then welcome to borrow them.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool pics! Especially that air dam! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's looking cool! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice gentlemen!



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Niiiiiice. Very Happy

Those headers look a million times better than the chickencrapwelds I'm laying down. Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NICE! I gotta come by the shop more often, like maybe when I don't have an automotive emergency! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Nice. I've been outta the loop so long, I wasn't aware Aaron was going with the 3.8L. Good motor, both N/a and boosted.
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