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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:55 pm    Post subject: Holley Secondary Reply with quote

Does anyone know how you adjust the secondaries on a manual secondary 4150? Mine isn't opening up all the way. I have no adjustment on opening and it appears that the lever is too long or that the hole has been hogged out from use on the secondary arm.

You can see it on the left side of this picture. Its the shiney inch long lever that links the primary and secondary.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know very little about carbs, but on the Quadrajet there is a "stop" that can be bent down or cut off to allow the secondaries to open fully.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is this car-brew-a-tor thing you speak of? Very Happy

Sorry I don't know diddly about carbs.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm beginning to think no one knows carburetors any more. I will stop asking questions about them.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bend the rod to get the opening you want.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
I'm beginning to think no one knows carburetors any more. I will stop asking questions about them.


I know alittle about carbs, I ve never worked on a holley so I am no help

edit: ask on here http://www.holley.com/forums/forum.php?s=4a1a89466b493b4824338499a0b1dc5a
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bending the rod changes the timing on when the secondaries open. I really just need some fuel injectors so I can multi port this bad boy.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Holley Secondary Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
the lever is too long or that the hole has been hogged out


Bend the rod.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
Bending the rod changes the timing on when the secondaries open. I really just need some fuel injectors so I can multi port this bad boy.


Now that'd be cool. What size injectors do you need?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need a set of 21 lb hour or so. Gotta support 400 HP.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
I need a set of 21 lb hour or so. Gotta support 400 HP.


I've got six brand new GM ones from a later 3.8 motor if you want them? (a, I don't know how big they are. b, yes I know you'll still have to get 2 more but this is a good start, right?!)

Are you coming to dyno? You're closer now, right?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too bad I tossed my two sets of LM7 injectors or I'd give em to ya free.

Lotsa things get tossed when this guy moves... Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whaaaaaaaat? Should've just given back to me. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a few misc sets of injectors too but not a complete matching set of 8. I should just go get a set. I think its the only piece missing from my EFI setup. I'm a lot closer to the CCC hub now, no excuse to come out. All I need now is a trailer to get the car there.

And I just discovered I have a 750 throttle plate on a 650 main body. But at least I got the casting flash removed, throttle shaft slimmed, venturies cleaned, choke horn removed, and it's ready for DYNO! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
it's ready for DYNO! Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with stupid Thumbs up
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iansane wrote:
Whaaaaaaaat? Should've just given back to me. Laughing


Sorry man, I was tossing things out left and right. I had a day and a half to go through my stuff and load it into the U-Haul. I paid you good money for those anyway. Smile They were mine to toss... Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
I'm beginning to think no one knows carburetors any more. I will stop asking questions about them.


aaron is familiar with carbs...even helped me with my edelbrock. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

turbo_jimi wrote:
aaron is familiar with carbs


Not familiar with mech. secondary Holleys, however, which is why I've kept my nose out of this thread.

If the problem is worn parts, all of them can be replaced easily.

Secondary lever:
http://www.holley.com/26-137.asp

Connecting link:
http://www.holley.com/20-54.asp

Adjustable linkage:
http://www.holley.com/20-122.asp
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could buy a whole new baseplate.. or even billet base plate. Nice thing with a holley is there are alot of parts available.

I havent said anything on this thread either because I havent had a double pumper since high school. Every holley i've had since has been a vac secondary. The few times I've worked on them, i've figured things out by looking at them, but just dont remember well enough to tell someone else how. I would probably try as Paul said though and just bend the link.
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