Cascade Crew

Wolffy · Member Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 375 Location: Spokane

after installing my HSR & a 58mm TB the car wont start when set at 6 BTDC, she doesnt even want to catch
i have checked & #1 is up, dist is lined up with cyl #1
unplugged the computer timing wire
getting spark/fuel & air
im still running the stock prom currently & I know thats an issue, but i think she should still try to start

she did run when the timing was set at about 20 BTDC and fired right up before the install

any ideas whiz kids ?

Dewey316

PonchoTA

Wolffy · Member Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 375 Location: Spokane

yeah ive pulled the dizzy like 3 times, but im thinking of rechecking it
air isnt to hard to get, im going to adjust the fuel regulator just in case
she isnt even trying to catch, unless i move the timing way out & then if i get it close, she will try to catch

Twilightoptics · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:04 pm Post subject:

Maybe Brandon will chime in, but I still think that since you're running 24lb/hr injectors on the stock 305 (19lb chip) that you are just dumping fuel in there and the only way it's running is from advancing the timing alot.

Dewey316 · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:25 pm Post subject:

with the larger intake, the air velocity at idle will be very small also, which would further lead itself to poor fueling.

90droptoproc · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:32 pm Post subject:

my bet is the distributor is 180 out or the modual died with all the disruption

Rich

Twilightoptics · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject:

CheezX · Member Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 90

Plug the timing connector back in. Did you try varying the throttle while trying to start? This would get it to start in the case of incorrect amount of air or fuel.

Wolffy · Member Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 375 Location: Spokane

sry yeah i did try plugging the timing connector back in
i can try giving it more fuel, but it isnt even trying to catch at all, she just cranks & cranks

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject:

CheezX · Member Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 90

Yeah, I'd say with your HSR, your low RPM volumetric efficiency is lower and would therefore need less fuel, not more.

Also, you've installed a new TB. Being a 58mm it will deliver more air for the same throttle angle. Try playing with the adjustment screw, I expect that would be another variable.

Yes, fuel and air can cause it to just windmill. My 400 would do that before I did a chip. Had to get on the throttle a bit for it to catch.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject:

Wolffy · Member Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 375 Location: Spokane

with your assitance we all got it figured out & shes running pretty decent now, at least at idle, no interior at the moment

need to play with the prom when the adapter shows up Monday

it was a combination of causes

1. no fuel, the gauge fuse blew & nobody noticed, so of course we didnt see she was on E, i havent driven her since last fall

2. fuel pressure was set at 30

3. timing was off a little

thanxs all for your input