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aaron_sK
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 9:39 pm    Post subject: Electric fan shrouds Reply with quote

Is there a difference between Camaro and Firebird shrouds for single electric fans? Also, are V6 and V8 the same?
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Al Hasse
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for my Camaros, the 3.1 and 5.0 are the same, even the radiators. The 2.8 has a smaller radiator, so the upper and lower fan brackets/radiator supports are different.
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem we're having is that the fan is binding on John's '86 Trans Am. The motor in the old fan was burnt up, and the upper radiator support was cracked, so I snagged the fan and shroud off of that '84 Z28 in the junkyard.

It looks the same as the one that came out, and is binding up when I bolt it in. The shrouds also look the same as in James' Z28. That's making me think that bird shrouds are shorter, and we've got the wrong one.
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted this question on TGO as well, as I couldn't find anything on the topic.
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aaron_sK
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hawks lists the same upper shroud for Camaro and Firebird 84-92. No listing for lower shroud.

Hawks wants $99 plus shipping for just that upper shroud, a piece I paid three dollars for at the yard. F**k Hawks. #$%^&*

Turdgenranch just has a listing for the fan, and they list it as 82-92 which I know is wrong, so f**k them too. Razz
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i remember correctly, john and i had the same problem with my 85, need to look at it again and see how it's installed.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No binding in my '84 Z28 and I'm using an '87 Firebird shroud. Dual fans though. Using a 2.8 Camaro shroud for single fan in my bro's T/A and there's no rubbing there either. So I've tried all combos of these cars and fans that work fine in every way:

2.8 Camaro single fan and shroud
5.0 TPI T/A dual fan and shroud

'87 2.8 Camaro
'84 Z28
'87 T/A

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So that means either damage to a hardpart, or incorrect installation.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like a previous owner jacked the car up under the radiator...about an inch bent...aaron ziptied it until we can remove the radiator and bend it back into shape.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
damage to a hardpart


I hate being right. No no no...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

turbo_jimi wrote:
looks like a previous owner jacked the car up under the radiator...about an inch bent...aaron ziptied it until we can remove the radiator and bend it back into shape.


Umm... yeah, it was a previous owner. I'm going with that... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was the fan binding on? It's been awhile since I saw a single fan car. (my 87 bird).
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the radiator support pushed up in the center, the fan shroud is bowing outwards (center is moving closer to the rad). That turns a circle into an oval, and the fan binds up.

We already smoked one motor before we realized it was seized.
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