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corey davidson Member

Joined: 12 Sep 2008 Posts: 351 Location: salem
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject: gonna try to start on hell beast again but... |
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idk were to start. so heres my proublem she will start and run but after i turn her off she comes outa time nd will not even turn over id love to have her for dyno but i cant pin point whats up. the shop i took her to says that its the dizzy or cat what do you guys think plz help me i miss drivein her _________________ real men are covered in oil and grease |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Checked the timing chain? |
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corey davidson Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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in a 305? sry forgot to tell you that part _________________ real men are covered in oil and grease |
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corey davidson Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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sorry long day i have checked that too _________________ real men are covered in oil and grease |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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305's got timing chains too.
So no timing chain slop, but loses timing when the engine stops.
Any vertical slop in the distributor? Cam gear not engaging? Have you tested with another distributor to see if that's the problem? |
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GREG DAVIDSON Member

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 1159 Location: Salem
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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yea he's not to bright on that stuff aaron i told him that after he wrote that i told him he needs to atleast take an basics to auto class but he wont listen , as far as the dizzy goes not to much as to slack in the up and down movement of it the one thats in there was my spare the one i was going to use lit fell apart in my hands and at this point im not willing to take apart my dayly driver apart to see if it works on his, and i cant find the right dizzy around here there all married coils with vac adv none of wich our formula's have |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Only way it's going to change timing is if the clamp is loose or not seated on the dizzy allowing it to spin.
Timing chain, even with slop, will hold time to a point, it just makes the cam lazy _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"

Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:13 am Post subject: |
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I was going to say the outer ring of the dampener may have slipped, but as paul pointed out with the timing chain, it should still start and run, even if it barely runs.
are you sure its timing, and not over/under fueling? what kind of shape are your spark plugs in? _________________
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: |
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I assume you're checking the timing with a light each time? Or what.... _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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GREG DAVIDSON Member

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 1159 Location: Salem
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| yup checked timing with a light even had another guy check it with his and he said it was dead on, spark plugs are brand new. when it wants to it runs fine just after it hits normal operating temp and under load it sounds like a tin can in the engine. when i get bored again i'll try to snip a vid of it or somthing |
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| have you verified that the timing mark on the balancer is actually correct? |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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So the timing doesn't actually change?
Maybe we should start from the begining here. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| GREG DAVIDSON wrote: | | yup checked timing with a light even had another guy check it with his and he said it was dead on, spark plugs are brand new. when it wants to it runs fine just after it hits normal operating temp and under load it sounds like a tin can in the engine. when i get bored again i'll try to snip a vid of it or somthing |
Have you put a light on it through the rpm range when it's warmed up to verify that it is correct, and pulling a good curve? |
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