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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:53 am Post subject: anyone have these tools i can borrow? |
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ok i need a ball joint press and i dont remember what its called but i need the tools to replace my tie rod ends and idler arm. i think its a pitman puller and tie rod separator?
if anyone has these and if i could borrow them that would be awesome!! |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:41 am Post subject: |
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I have tie rod and ball joint separators (pickle forks), ball joint press can be rented from Auto Zone (free - deposit is refunded after return). What do you need a pitman puller for? Pitman arm is a non-wear item and doesn't need replacing unless you've bent it from an accident... _________________ 92 Camaro
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| i was watching a how to video on how to replace the idler arm, and he used a pitman puller to take off the idler arm |
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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All them tools can be rented from most parts stores.
Depends on what automobile your refuring to on the pitman arm. I know a 1997 chevy full size truck, that is a wear item  |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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I can come down and give you a hand. I have everything except the ball joint press. I'll even bring a floor jack and some jack stands. Tie rod separator works fine for the idler arm, I did mine that way  |
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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that would be awesome! if its easier i can drive to ur place that way you dont have to use any gas or anything, and i can just rent the ball joint press
and idk if i said it before or not but i am also replacing the control arm bushings |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| 91camaro_rs wrote: | | i was watching a how to video on how to replace the idler arm, and he used a pitman puller to take off the idler arm |
Idler arm comes off with two big (3/4" IIRC) bolts to the subframe. |
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| i think its where the idler arm connects to the linkage is the harder part |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| 91camaro_rs wrote: | that would be awesome! if its easier i can drive to ur place that way you dont have to use any gas or anything, and i can just rent the ball joint press
and idk if i said it before or not but i am also replacing the control arm bushings |
I'd rather do it at your place, that way you're not stranded if we don't get finished in a day.
I took my control arms with replacement bushings to Schucks and had them do it for me, mostly because I wasn't sure how to get the old ones out. Still not real sure, but I've heard using a drill to bore the rubber out works pretty good. |
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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i didnt even think about getting stranded haha good thing ya brought that up, i have been working everyother day so i want to find a time where i dont work for two days that way if something happens i dont gotta worry about getting to work.
and for the bushings this website uses a hydraulic press thing
http://www.pdm-racing.com/installs/installs_FLCAbushings.html |
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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On my lower LCA's, I took them to a shop for a day and let them press the balls and bushings in.
Now on my bosses s10, upper control arms. I beat them out with a little heat and a BFH. Put them back in with ice, socket, BFH. |
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izcain 9sec Club
Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 1306 Location: Port Angeles WA
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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The pitman arm CAN and will wear out. They are more of a wear item then people think. The ball socket gets play as well as the splines can get play. Im sure you can get the puller for autozone as well. If you were a little closer I would just let you barrow them all to bad..... _________________
1983 Z28 383 + 201ci more = New Heart for this season!
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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If you've got access to one, that's great. If not, then manual labor is the way Whenever you want to get started, let me know.
| izcain wrote: | | The pitman arm CAN and will wear out. They are more of a wear item then people think. The ball socket gets play as well as the splines can get play. |
When I replaced everything on the front of my 89, I tried to get a pitman arm also (just because I was replacing everything else), but nobody carried one because they are "non wear." I understand that they can wear, moving parts always wear somewhat. |
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| i think i gonna start taking it apart on thursday...still gotta get a 18mm socket and friday gonna take the control arms to my friends house to get the bushings out and replaced then go to my friends cousins house cause he has a ball joint press. will i have to compress the springs to take them out to remove the control arms? or do the springs not matter? |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Spring compressor might be good. I didn't use one. I had the A-arm supported with my floor jack while I separated the ball joint. Then I slowly lowered the A-arm with the jack until I was able to remove the spring. The front of the car has to be pretty high to do this. Also a good idea to use a chain or something to secure the bottom of the spring to the A-arm so the spring doesn't become a missile. |
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| good idea, im definatly gonna chain that thing down, those springs could take someone out easily, if i can get my hands on a spring compressor ill just use that |
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