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popballz
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 Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: It just gets better and better! |
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so tonight my car will be at school all night, because it decided not to start.
-i am actually kinda worried about it, since i don't live in the best part of town.
so after school i tried to go home, and it would not start, so i thought it was just a dead battery, so i tried to jump it, that did not work. so i took the battery home and charged it, went back and it would not start again, even with a charged battery and a jump. so i did that again and it still wont start! 
this really sucks, but at least i dont have to go in till 10:30am since they are taking the WASL and i passed that!
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on a side note, i got my '94 center console in last night!
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aaron_sK
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| Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Are you getting anything at all from the starter? Slow crank? Click? |
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popballz
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| Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | Are you getting anything at all from the starter? Slow crank? Click? |
ya, its cranking, but it seems slower then usual
idk, everything else sounds normal, i was not able to actually do anything to it, me and my dad are gunna go up there tomorrow some time and figure it out, or get it home, hopefully.
but i also parked next to a 4th gen camaro today, and when it started up, it sounded really nice! haha 
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iansane
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| Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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That boot looks pretty good in there. 
Sucks about the starting thing though. It'll crank, no fire? Does yours have VATS? I don't remember if VATS disables the starter though...
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GREG DAVIDSON
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| Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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vats disables the starter it wouldnt crank
i do like the console i have one its the automatic and i need to modify it .
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fiveoformula
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| Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Gotta check for spark and fuel if it cranks fine.
Console looks sweet tho!
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popballz
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| GREG DAVIDSON wrote: | vats disables the starter it wouldnt crank
i do like the console i have one its the automatic and i need to modify it . |
haha, have fun modifying that center console! i was working on a automatic, but i got lazy, this is as far as i got
(i cut out the center and made it higher, i still gotta cut a hole in it for the shifter)
| fiveoformula wrote: | Gotta check for spark and fuel if it cranks fine.
Console looks sweet tho! |
well, it was spark! so now it runs again!
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Twilightoptics
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: |
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What'd you fix?
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GREG DAVIDSON
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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oh yea i hear that thats why its still sitting on my garage floor  i just dont wanna dink with it yet
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im surprised that your car isn't on blocks by now, but the console looks AWESOME good work
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ok, i lied, it does not run.... but the problem is the spark, i am going to replace the coil in a minute--ok, its not the coil.--there is no spark at the coil. 
| Jason_Culbertson wrote: | | im surprised that your car isn't on blocks by now, |
whats that suppose to mean? are you insulting me?
dude, nothing bad ever happens to my car, the worst thing is i had to replace the alternator because it was making an annoying noise,
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Jason_Culbertson
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| popballz wrote: | ok, i lied, it does not run.... but the problem is the spark, i am going to replace the coil in a minute--ok, its not the coil.--there is no spark at the coil.
| Jason_Culbertson wrote: | | im surprised that your car isn't on blocks by now, |
whats that suppose to mean? are you insulting me?
dude, nothing bad ever happens to my car, the worst thing is i had to replace the alternator because it was making an annoying noise, |
no im not insulting you im talking about the area you left it in thats why im suprised you still have all the parts on the car my dads friend left his 79 camaro in a parking lot of safeway on 38th street and the only thing he got back was the shell of the car
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Ignition Module.
Do you have 12v power to the RED wires on the coil key on?
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popballz
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Jason_Culbertson wrote: |
no im not insulting you im talking about the area you left it in thats why im suprised you still have all the parts on the car my dads friend left his 79 camaro in a parking lot of safeway on 38th street and the only thing he got back was the shell of the car |
oh ok, that makes alot of sense, i though you meant like i was dumb and took random stuff apart and didn't know how to put it back together or something lol btw, that sucks about that car
| Twilightoptics wrote: | Ignition Module.
Do you have 12v power to the RED wires on the coil key on? |
i just got home from school, but my dad drove it home today..it was in one piece!.. i realized that this has happened before, it wont start, then the next morning it will fire right up! would the "Ignition Module" do something like that?
(i have not even looked at the car today, so i can't say anything about the 12v on the red wire.)
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Yes it would.
Before you replace it you should check the condition of the pickup coil. Check it's resistance. A chiltons book will tell you what it should be. An intermittent short in the coil will cause your condition. |
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| blue89 wrote: | Yes it would.
Before you replace it you should check the condition of the pickup coil. Check it's resistance. A chiltons book will tell you what it should be. An intermittent short in the coil will cause your condition. |
I've never seen anything in the chilton about the pickup coil. Just the ignition coil. Usually the pickup coil disintegrates when it goes bad.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| It takes two seconds to check it so check it. If you've ever had one go bad on you, you would know it can behave just like a bad coil. |
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popballz
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| blue89 wrote: | Yes it would.
Before you replace it you should check the condition of the pickup coil. Check it's resistance. A chiltons book will tell you what it should be. An intermittent short in the coil will cause your condition. |
thats exactly what i was going to do!
now i just gotta try to get it started to get into the garage..... 
edit: the next day
its inside!
so anyways at this point, for it to start, it has to be really cold, like it has to sit over night, then it will start right up, and it will keep starting while it is hot, but once it cools down a little bit, it will not start again till it stils for like 12 hours or more.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Twilightoptics wrote: | Ignition Module.
Do you have 12v power to the RED wires on the coil key on? |
yes, there is 12v at the coil, but nothing at the white wire next to it?
whats the white wire suppose to be? its not really a ground either ( i made the mistake of thinking it was a ground, so i grounded it to make sure....well i got a HUGE shock when trying to plug the coil back in.
so how does this work? there is power to the coil, but something inside the distributor(ignition module?) tells it to give off spark? which is what the other cable on the coil is for?
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