Cascade Crew

fiveoformula · Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: Getting Started

Does anyone have any chip tuning stuff they wanna let go for $$$?
With the problems I am having with my emissions stuff... (EGR etc.)
I want to possibly... tune it out! I wanna mess with things like Idle, cold starts, Timing etc.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:28 am Post subject: Re: Getting Started

WS6FORMULA · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: Getting Started

fiveoformula · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Getting Started

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject:

Air pump isn't in the chip at all. EGR, you can just leave the solenoid plugged in and the CPU wont know the difference. But yes you can disable EGR in the chip.

fiveoformula · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject:

Thats how I have the EGR, just the vacuum line plugged, solenoid plugged in. It doesn't even throw a code until I get on the highway.
But the car doesn't really run good when cold. Is there anything I can do to help it?

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject:

You want to make sure the valve itself isn't stuck open.

Not sure what to do about the coldness. Probably need to get a scanner on it and check the O2 and coolant readings to make sure the sensors are operating properly.

fiveoformula · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject:

I can do that, I have access to an Auto Xray with a datastream at work, but what am I looking for from the sensors exactly?
I can open the valve with my finger BTW.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject:

You need to either blow on it, or use a vacuum gauge to verify that it stays closed and isn't bleeding off.

With the scanner make sure the coolant temp is ACTUALLY what the coolant temp is. Just check cold against ambiant air.

O2 you'll want to watch for cross counts to be steadily increasing. That's the o2 reading above below about .550 MV (14.7:1 AFR) Then look at the fuel trims. 128 is perfect fueling. If it's higher that indicates the O2 is reading too much oxygen (lean). If the number is lower, the O2 is reading too little oxygen indicating a rich mixture.

If it seems way off might need an O2... especially if it's not doing much or reading slow. O2 is a tune up part.

fiveoformula · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject:

Ok I went and scanned it.
My 02 was going all over the place at idle. Up to .7xx Mv and back down to .015ish.

Temp seemed correct to the gauge, the quarter mark being about 185* and the intake air was about 80*

Dewey316 · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject:

fiveoformula · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject:

Oh interesting... It's wierd nothing else seemed out of the ordinary.

fiveoformula · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:20 am Post subject:

For tuning, where do you guys get your burnable chips? whats the best programmer?

Twilightoptics · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:37 am Post subject:

Moates.com

Adapter (for the chip)
Burn2 (For burning)

Now moates sells just the SF512 chips and I still cannot get them to work.
The Atmel 256 chips work great but I'm having trouble finding more. I loaned my last 2 to AL.

Dewey316 · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:09 am Post subject:

If you are going to be spening money for all that stuff... You might also consider just spending the money for RBob's EBL system.

www.dynamicefi.com

--John

fiveoformula · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:02 pm Post subject:

I have found that some of those sites aren't very beginner friendly, but im learning..
John, whats the advantage to the dynamic efi setup?

Dewey316 · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject:

fiveoformula · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject:

That makes it pretty simple Very Happy

so it just plugs into my ECM without modification? Then I use like Tunerpro etc. to decode it?

*Edit. I read more, I have to install it into my existing ECM...
Do you have one of these Dew?

Dewey316 · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject:

It is in my plan of things to get.

--John

Magman · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject:

The Ostrich is another great product. It's what I'm using now. I've got step by step directions (w/pics) to install it in your ECM that I made when I installed mine. Designed to work with TunerPro, the Ostrich eliminates the chip and gives you real time emulation while you drive. I'm lovin it! If you want to check out the install instructions, shoot me a PM with your e-mail. It's EZ!

Link to Ostrich: http://www.moates.net/index.php?cPath=50