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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:46 pm Post subject: While you guys were playing in Canada.... |
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While you guys were up playing around in Canada.
My fuel pump took a dive. So I guess maybe my missing might have been for the better. Would have really sucked for it to die on me, in BC.
Anywho, got the tank out tonight, and the new pump in the tank. Going to put the tank back in tomorrow night.
Let me say, as a 1 person job, the fuel pump really sucks. Last few times I have done this, we had 2-3 of us doing it, that makes a huge diffrence.
Hope you guys enjoyed the great north. I can't wait to see pics! _________________
"Ever see a Motorcycle in front of a Psychiatrists Office?" Me neither |
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90droptoproc Member
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 490
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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good luck finishing up the pump
I agree doing it yourself is no gun at all
sorry I left my msn on the whole weekend, I get to the puter and see that I missed the thing about your car breaking and everything _________________
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5304 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, that would have sucked to have to do a fuel pump on the side of the road in canada. good luck with the rest of it. how many hours has it taken so far? some people were giving me crap for taking two days on mine before dyno.
we missed the Lama up in Canada, i was looking forward to viewing your car in action around some turns. you would have liked it, the cruise would have realy allowed you to shine with your built (understatement) suspension. |
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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:54 am Post subject: |
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I put in abotu 4-4.5 hours yesterday.
But, I spent a good amount of time, working on getting a stripped flare fitting for a brakline undone, and also I had to sort out my tools, so really I probably only got in about 3.5 hours of wrenching, and an hour of that, was spend on 1 flare fitting.
Having two people, to get the tank out makes all the diffrence, that was by far the worst part. Dropping the rear-end, and the exaust is pretty eays. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5304 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:41 am Post subject: |
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the tank was always the hard part for me too. being able to remove the exhaust makes all the difference.
so did you undo your brake lines? i always removed the first three hangers and allowed them to flex down to the rear-end. then i don't have to re-bleed the brakes. though that is realy just me being lazy. |
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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Yes I disconnected the brake line. I am always worried abotu damaging the hard line.
FWIW, when I do it, I get the rear of the car up in the air. Pull the driveshaft, and panhard out. I unbolt only the axle side of the LCA's, and then drop the rear end all they way to the ground (I leave the TA attached).
Then, I pull the exaust out. Since mine is flanged where the cat was, I just unbolt the exaust system, and pulled it all the way out of the car. From there, it was just a matter of pulling the tank out. |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4415 Location: Gresham, OR
1989 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Did you do a stock replacement or step up to a better unit?
-Schultzy _________________ Red Sled: 89 GTA, 383, TKO, N2O
12.73 @ 109.39, 1.793 60 \ 11.794 @ 121.16, 1.62 60 (old combo) |
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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Stock replacement. I couldn't wait and mail order one. |
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alloy T56 Elitist
Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 1716 Location: Vancouver, WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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Too bad you went stock. One from a Syclone bolts in place. Wasn't much more $$$ that the stock one was.
And.........I put this one in twice. I used the o-ring that came with the pump, got it in, went and filled up with gas, and had gas everywhere. Did some checking and found the o-ring didn't seal. Was in right, just didn't seal correctly. I went to chevy and got one that had a metal flange with an o-ring on each side of it. Was a b*tch to get it compressed and get the lock ring in place, but it does not leak. Cost me about $12 for it. Much better than taking the tank out twice. |
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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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Dan,
I wish I would have known about the SyTy-pump.
I would have gone with a racetronix kit like mike, but I really can't wait a week or two for it to ship. |
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alloy T56 Elitist
Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 1716 Location: Vancouver, WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Well...........didn't see your post til after you had done it........sorry.
Also..........next time I pull my tank, I'm cutting the fuel neck and puting a 6" section of fuel hose in it to make it easier to install. Got mine at Napa for about $5 as I recall.
Last edited by alloy on Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:07 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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No worries. I got the TPI pump, hopefully it lasts a little while. |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Well, while you guys were having fun up north I stopped Mr. Lama's and enjoyed some of he and Bartimus' homebrew, and gave him a few MAF sensors as that was the initial guess to what turns out to be a fuel pump problem.
(I'll have to come back and get those from ya sometime this week, John) _________________
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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Come get them whenever you want. Thanks for bringing those by.
Ok, and 8 hours of labor later. I have now determined that the fuel pump, was in fact good. And I am still not building fuel pressure. I think it may be the regulator, something else in the fuel system.
That was a heck of a lot of work, to not fix anything. |
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rjmcgee The Hammer
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 2320
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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OUCH!!!
filter maybe?? |
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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to check the regulator out tomorrow. |
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iansane Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5740 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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So you get no pressure on crank? _________________
Quote: | Sometimes I actually think I'm slightly retarded in the mouth. |
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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Alright, well still no progress here. I am going to continue troubleshooting it again tonight. This problem is starting to drive me nuts. |
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rjmcgee The Hammer
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Make sure you didn't run over a pack of gum or some other ground clearance hindering object and smash a fuel line shut. |
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85 T/A WS6 Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 539 Location: Buckley
1985 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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I feel for you, my T/A died in front of an entire car show crowd and had to be pushed into the show lineup.
Code 34 is stored, it barely keeps idle, seems like its starving for fuel.
Let me know what you find out. Clean your fuel pump relay contacts, that helped me once when nothing else worked. |
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