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blue89
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:50 am    Post subject: POSI/LSD Reply with quote

If anyone can help out that would be awesome. I have 4.11 gears in my garage that I want to put in, but I don't want to without some sort of traction control. Are drum axle, 3-series, LSD units hard to come by? I've been looking around for a long time and noone seems to have any for sale. If I can't find one soon I'll have to buy new. Any suggestion or offers?
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rjmcgee
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the posi unit drum or disc doesn't matter if that helps your search. Spline count on the axles matters though, if you have an 89 you could have 26 or 28 spline axles I believe.
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blue89
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it turns out I need a 26 spline, 3-series LSD carrier.
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Twilightoptics
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the hell is an LSD posi?


Like... you go auto cross and have hallucinations about posi?
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aaron_sK
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_slip_differential
Get down and Boogie!

I like your explanation better though.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh didn't realize LSD was an acronym for Limited Slip.

Limited Slip is a GM term Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posi-tractrion is just a "GMism" for a clutch type Limited Slip Differential or LSD. there are three types of LSD; clutch, viscous and helical.
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Twilightoptics
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xophertony wrote:
Posi-tractrion is just a "GMism" for a clutch type Limited Slip Differential or LSD. there are three types of LSD; clutch, viscous and helical.



And Torsen!^ Actually there are tons of different kinds of "posi/limited slip"

As far as I know "limited slip" is a GM term. Everyone else calls them positraction. Hense GM's additive called "Limited Slip Oil Additive."
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twilightoptics wrote:
Xophertony wrote:
Posi-tractrion is just a "GMism" for a clutch type Limited Slip Differential or LSD. there are three types of LSD; clutch, viscous and helical.



And Torsen!^ Actually there are tons of different kinds of "posi/limited slip"

As far as I know "limited slip" is a GM term. Everyone else calls them positraction. Hense GM's additive called "Limited Slip Oil Additive."



WRONG!!!!

Posi traction is chevy's.

Limited Slip is Ford's

I really dunno, just wanted to yell at Paul. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pokey pokey Read the link....

Quote:
Factory Names

In the 1950's and 1960's many manufacturers began to apply brand names to their LSD units. The most famous of these was Chevrolet's "Positraction". Since then, Positraction (often shortened to "positrac" or merely "posi") has become a genericized trademark for LSDs.

Other factory names for LSD's include

Pontiac: Safe-T-Track

Ford: Equa-Lock and Trac-Lok

American Motors Corporation: Twin-Grip

Mopar: Sure Grip

Ferrari: E-Diff

Fiat: Viscodrive
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do know that I could post on Wikipedia that the sky is red... and it'd be there.... It's not credited information
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know. But then again most everything on the internet isn't.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my brother uses "limited slip" when talking about toyotas, BMWs and Nissans... i had always figured it was the "official" term.
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Quasi-Traction
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always kind of figured that "limited slip" was just a generic term for anything that will have two wheels turning on any manufacturers car.

I always thought each manufacture had there own cute little name for it (IE, chevy: Positraction, Ford: Equa-lock, Mopar: Sure-grip.)

oh well. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quasi-Traction wrote:
I always kind of figured that "limited slip" was just a generic term for anything that will have two wheels turning on any manufacturers car.

I always thought each manufacture had there own cute little name for it (IE, chevy: Positraction, Ford: Equa-lock, Mopar: Sure-grip.)

oh well. Rolling Eyes


Me too.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang........when I saw the "LSD" thing I thougth I was having flashbacks to the 60's Wink

LSD was the term for "Lysergic acid diethylamide" One of those "mind altering drugs we had back then.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:18 am    Post subject: ENOUGH BS Reply with quote

Now that we all are on the same page...

Back to my post. Like I said before, I'm looking for some kind of traction control. The rear end in my car is a GM 10bolt that will accept 26 spline 3 series carriers. If anyone has anything that will fit back there I would greatly appreciate it if it was for sale. What I don't want is a 2 series commonly found on IROC's or other V8 cars.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 series carrier is fine if you use a ring gear spacer. There about $40 - $50 . If you got a smoking deal on a two series it would be worth it.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm slowly learning about camaro axles...

A stock GM 10 bolt camaro axle is a 7.5" right, not 7 5/8"? I have a 2 series LSD at home, but I hadn't known it would work until I just found out the spline count are the same. I'm going to track down a spacer and get it.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
I'm slowly learning about camaro axles...

A stock GM 10 bolt camaro axle is a 7.5" right, not 7 5/8"? I have a 2 series LSD at home, but I hadn't known it would work until I just found out the spline count are the same. I'm going to track down a spacer and get it.


Make sure the spacer comes with bolts. Sounds stupid but the ringgear bolts are left hand thread 7/16's fine thread. You can not just buy them.

I got a "deal" on the first ring gear spacer I bought and figured I'd just run down to the hardware store and get some longer bolts. Embarassed


BTW, I have a spacer for sale.





Just needs bolts. Laughing
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