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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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wouldn't all the olds 88's and such, that had the 3.8's in them back then, all have those heads? |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, you can use those. but there's a difference in valve train I think. One of the models had the exact heads though. The TTA also had special pistons to get the right compression for boost with those heads. Since the heads were made to be used on an n/a motor. |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm. My 01 camaro has a 3.8L......I wonder if those heads would work on an older one.............
Someone told me a 4.3 is like a 327 with two cylinders cut off and a 3.8L is like a 305 with two cylinders cut off... _________________
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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A 4.3 is a 350 with 2 cylinders cut off. It uses the exact same pistons/rods/rings/valves etc.
You're confusing 2 different 3.8s. You're camaro has a buick 3.8, just like most of the fwd cars, the GN, and alot of cars way back into the 60s.It's a 231cid motor. But there was a chevy 3.8 also. This was made in the early 80s. This is a 229cid motor and it is a 305 with 2 cylinders cut off.. Just like the 4.3 all the parts are the same. |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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right......It was you who told me the similarities Between the 90 Degree Chevy V6's and Small Blocks, I guess I just got a fact or two skewed.
I know the Buick 3.8L is pretty much a staple now between all divisions (Buick, Chevy, Pontiacs) where a 3.8L is used in both RWD and FWD applications. Kind of how third gen Trans Am and Z/28 both got a Chevy Small block.
3.8L Chevy (229ci) was used in 78-86 Malibu's/El-camino's, and 78-81 Camaro's...were there any other chassis it was used in?
Realistically though, whats the difference between the 231's head and the 229's head? Is it as different as a Chevy 400 and Pontiac 400? _________________
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5304 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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wait, so if we slapped a GN turbo and a differnt computer in chris's camaro it would be faster then my GTA? f**kin cool |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Realistically though, whats the difference between the 231's head and the 229's head? Is it as different as a Chevy 400 and Pontiac 400? |
Exactly. One's a chevy, one's a buick. The 229 head looks like a shortened up sb head. The 231 is totally different. Head bolt pattern, cylinder spacing, manifolds etc all different. |
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84transam383 Banned
Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 431 Location: bend, or
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Xophertony wrote: | wait, so if we slapped a GN turbo and a differnt computer in chris's camaro it would be faster then my GTA? f**kin cool | not quite,gn's and ttas had forged components,and lower compression ratio,try that on a cast internal 3.8 and youll be picking up the peices if you run it hard. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5304 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 4:02 am Post subject: |
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ohhhhhh yeeeahhhh. i forgot about that. they also have one hell of an enginered crank.. it's crossdrilled for additional oil flow. |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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we could try it anyways Tony!
My car has a powetrain warrenty good until it hits 96k miles. _________________
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5304 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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so we just can't do anything that we could not reverse before taking it back to the dealership. |
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