Cascade Crew

DyskoChris83 · Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 3:42 pm Post subject: a whole new starting problem

if some fo your read my previous posts u know i was putting on a new carb and intake manifold. Well i burnt the starter out (was entirely my own fault) so we put a new one in, Car started up had a weird random clicking (it would click random no given pattern) then the radiator hose started leaking. shut the car off tightened it and now it wont start. Starter engages pulleys turn about 1/8 a inch and nothing. any ideas what this could be? (so far has new starter new distributor, new carb, new intake) i have till tomorrow afternoon to get it running or the apartment towes it away. Thanks in advance for any help. -chris

chevymad · Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject:

Try to turn the motor over by hand. I hope it didnt get too hot and blow a head gasket. You could by hydrolocked. If it is and does fire you could split cylinders, break pistons or bend rods.. If its hydrolocked pull the plugs and turn it over. The water will shoot out the bad cylinder.

Xophertony · Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject:

i have allways wondered, how would the water get in there?

DyskoChris83 · Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject:

hmmmm, I dont know if thats it or not. i talked to managers and i got until monday at 4pm, or they'll tow it. its weird though Acts liek the batteries dead when it cant be just had it recharged just to make sure. ill check to see if its water tomorrow.

Quasi-Traction · Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 12:13 am Post subject:

Stupid question, but I have to ask....

is it the right starter.....like say you have one for a 168 tooth flywheel and your flywheel is a 153 tooth? I'd also check all the connections and make sure everything is on there.

Next guess would be your starter solenoid, unless that got replaced too with the starter.

chevymad · Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 9:37 am Post subject:

Couple of ways water can get in there. There are water ports all around the cylinder where the water flows into the head. If you get the motor hot enough the metal expands and compresses the gasket more then normal. Then when it cools the gasket fits loose, water makes it way into the cylinder. Or the head could warp and the same thing happens. Or you get the motor hot and steam pressurizes the water jacket and blows a hole in the gasket to the cylinder. Or the gasket just plain rots away leaving a hole for the water to go through.

My reasoning on thinking this could be hydrolocking is that the motor tries to turn over but stops, and his leaky hose. The hose could have started leaking due to combustion gases getting into the water jacket and overpressurizing the radiator.

It still could be something completely else.

iansane · Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject:

What's your phone number? I've got monday off and will be spending the morning and early afternoon out on American lake (you can come out if ya like). After that I can stop by and try to give a hand?

Give me a call tommorrow morning (monday) 253.312/0407

aaron_sK · Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:57 am Post subject:

I'm working on my car this morning, but after that I have to run out to Lakewood and swing by my work. After that I'm free, so if you guys need any help, post back here and I'll roll out there.

Sellmanb · Member Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 727 Location: Tigard, OR

Bring the starter back, have them bench test it for you, after that, if it turns out ok:

Pull the valve covers and make sure nothing's screwed up there in the valve train, if everything checks OK there, then take the spark plugs out of the cylinders and crank it, see if anything spits out (like coolant)... also check your oil level, make sure it's got a reading on the dipstick, and that the oil doesnt look like chocolate milk..

If all that it wants to move is an 1/8 of an inch at a time though even after these tests then check your battery cables, grounds, etc... it's either starter or something internal. If you get it to crank more than that, but it still wont start....

Make sure you are getting spark (a cheap 5 dollar inline spark tester from Schmucks should do the trick with a friend cranking), make sure the throttle isnt stuck closed. If everything checks OK there, spray some starting fluid in the carb while a friend tries to start it.

Nothing after that then mess with the timing (unless of course the car ran fine before, then the timing is probably perfectly allright).

DyskoChris83 · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject:

i had to towed to villa transmissions, they said it was hydrolocked and a push rod is bent (this is the second push rod i bent in the car) anyways im very upset brandnew engine downt he drain. Thanks for allt eh help fellas.

aaron_sK · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject:

Why? Did so much water get in that it ruined the bottom end?

chevymad · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:50 pm Post subject:

If its just a pushrod you'll probably just need to replace it and the head gaskets. Unless you mean the piston rod is bent. Which is pretty easy to do if you try to start it hydrolocked.

aaron_sK · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject:

Don't worry, it's a Honda.