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Oil Pan for 383

 
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82camaro383
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject: Oil Pan for 383 Reply with quote

I was wondering if anyone knows what oil pan to use for a 1 piece rear seal 383 that will fit into a third gen. I have heard that stock pans have to be kicked out to so the rods will c Confused lear the sides of the pan.
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Schultzy89GTA
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't guarantee that it will fit everything but I am using the Moroso 6 qt pan on my 1 piece rear main seal 383.

I will tell you that it does not leave as much room between the sump and bellhousing for the exhaust to be routed by. I am running a 3" diameter pipe off the header so it creates a bigger issue than when I was running the 2 1/4" pipe.




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82camaro383
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that the moroso pan made fo the 82-92 camaro/firebird? Do you have any clearence issues with the connecting rods hitting the pan?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes. no.

The only issue I had was that the windage try is below the add line on my dipstick. This was easily compensated for Wink

What stroke are you planning on using?

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82camaro383
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has a 3.75 stroke
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

k - same as me.

This is a 6 quart pan but like i alluded to, if you fill it with 6 your crank will be in oil. I run 5 quarts and everything is grand. (except for all these pesky folks still beating me at the track... that can be fixed though)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The crank scraper is a bit of a fittment problem. And do not use all the suplied studs on the windage tray. Wink

Besides that one, you might give Canton a call, they make wicked nice oil pans, but they are on the spendy side.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crank scraper just required a LOT of trimming. And the other thing, ahem, no comment.

Embarassed

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info. That pan is a lot cheaper than the Milodon pan I was going to get.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wouldent it be good to have the crank in oil? or would that slow it down too much? also kick ass looking engine shultsy Exclamation
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is (and I think I saw a slowmo video or animation of this) that when the crank is submerged in oil it acutally pics the oil up and it wraps around the crank like a rope. When you consider the rpms that we are talking about it can create quite a drag = loss of power.

I'm sure that those smarter than I will chime in and confirm or deny.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a lot of resistance from it, that is a power loss. I would also assume it would be harder on the parts, as it puts a bending force on the crank, in a direction diffrent from the force of the rods pushing it.
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