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chevymad · Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:20 pm Post subject: New Z28

Pics released for the new 2014 Z28. I like it alot better then the current camaro. Not quite so smiley up front.. Also find it funny that they used "camaro" taillights on the new vette.. but now the new z28 ditches them completely.

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/2014-chevrolet-camaro-z-28-roars-into-big-apple?icid=autos_4156

iansane · Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:42 pm Post subject:

Still not an appreciable amount lighter...

They put on prelude tail lights!

aaron_sK · Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:47 pm Post subject:

Still too heavy.

Waistline still way to high.

Likewise the windows are too small.

But I'm a guy driving an E30, the car with the highest ratio of window to waistline ever built. Laughing

chevymad · Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:51 pm Post subject:

Government crash regs cause the high beltline on everything now days. Not something I like much either.

aaron_sK · Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:54 pm Post subject:

Your friendly neighborhood uncle strikes again, eh B?

chevymad · Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:58 pm Post subject:

I think the days you could comfortably rest your arm out the window are over. Even on trucks. That's something I definately dont like. The other thing that causes these high sides is the obsession with giant wheels. Takes tall fenders to clear these and still leave enough room for average drivers to 4x over shitty roads.

aaron_sK · Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:05 pm Post subject:

I am also a man who takes pride in his left arm tan, so I am with you 100%.

Also the blind spots are god-awful in these new cars. Worse visibility than my big Furd.

chevymad · Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:17 pm Post subject:

I'll agree to that too. The stupid headrests on the back seats totally block the window anymore.

turbo_jimi · Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:21 pm Post subject:

I like the 5th gens, but they're no longer "affordable" to the average person. Even a bone stock Camaro is going to run $25k or more. I paid $15k for my 98 in 98.

aaron_sK · Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:30 pm Post subject:

While I agree with your first point James, you gotta bear the inflation in mind. The starting MSRP for a basic 2013 Camaro is 23K, your 15K adjusted from 1998 is a little over 21K. The price creep is not horribly bad.

iansane · Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:30 pm Post subject:

aaron_sK · Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:35 pm Post subject:

Alphius · Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:43 pm Post subject:

RSFreak · Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:55 pm Post subject:

It looks a bit nicer than the current models, but I'm still not a fan. I wouldn't doubt if the Corvette group within GM dictated the tail light change as they probably felt it looked too similar.

fiveoformula · Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:37 am Post subject:

I like it, the visibility does suck in those cars but I have you ever sat in a 4th gen and honestly say you can see the front end? or even the hood for that matter? Laughing

turbo_jimi · Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:55 am Post subject:

ChrisB · Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:44 am Post subject:

I guess I'm the weird one in the group. I love the 14 Z28.

I have driven many 5th gen's both RS and SS, even one ZL1. I won't know until I get my hands on a new Z28, but I would honestly probably prefer it over the ZL1.

I think the styling changes actually make a substantial improvement in the appearance of the car. I honestly have not ever been a huge fan of the 5th gen styling, but the Z28 looks pretty damn good.

Dewey316 · Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:50 am Post subject:

what will be interesting to see, is what the actual weight on the new SS (aka, Holden) is compared to the Camaro. Looking at the holden info, I have a feeling they will weight about the same the SS might come in under the ZL1 and SS in weight. If they come out with a hotter version of the SS for 2015, I would not be surprised to see it actually outperform the camaro if you put similar tires on it.