Cascade Crew

91RSVert · Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:44 am Post subject: Piss poor planing version???

Its mine.

Needs lots of work, but Ive always wanted one of these, plus I needed something "suv'ish" for some of my hobbys.

DBL_TKE · Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:31 pm Post subject:

Wow, that looks like a project. What are your plans for it?

91RSVert · Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:56 pm Post subject:

Make it a nice driver. I think 33" tires, and 3 or 4" lift should fit in the garage. Supposibly its got one beast of a motor.

We had to fully remove the brake system to make it roll. So fixing that is #1. Then make the motor spin.

chevymad · Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject:

Looks like its solid where it needs to be. Most everything but the rockers just bolt on.

I've fixed worse. Good luck these trucks are easy to fix and probably cheaper then any other vehicle to restore.

91RSVert · Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:49 am Post subject:

The left floor needs repaired, both rockers. Then the rear quarters need fixed due to being cut out. They will likely be last thing to get fixed.

Dont have as much done by now as planned. But what car project goes as planned? Rolling Eyes

91RSVert · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:27 am Post subject:

So the motor has had marvols mystery oil in it since sun or monday. Still wont spin by ratcheting on the crank bolt. Thinking about putting some kerosen in it, then taking crank balancer off and putting my crank socket on it.

Any other ideas?

Also quite sure it has an np203 transfer case which is basically AWD. Does not have a 2wd. Its missing one of the link rods. Anyone know of a place that sells them?

iansane · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:35 am Post subject:

Classifieds on either;
www.coloradok5.com
www.pirate4x4.com

Worse case scenario you could buy one of those twin stick kits and I think those come with new linkages.

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:28 pm Post subject:

Some thoughts:

Marvel Mystery Oil is just type-F tranny fluid. Buy that (or just hydraulic oil) and save a few bucks.

I would try soaking it with some diesel fuel to loosen it up.

Throw that 203 in the scrap pile where it belongs and get a 205 or 208. They are a silly case for silly people. Laughing

91RSVert · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject:

Yea, I dont like that its AWD. But if I can make it work right for 20'ish buxs tell I can afford a different one, I would like to.

iansane · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject:

203+205.

aaron_sK · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:00 pm Post subject:

Jay, is this what you're after or do you need the rods themselves?

I found that at my Dad's shop and I seem to remember it came off a 203... Shrug

91RSVert · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:32 am Post subject:

They look close, but isnt it.

I went ot the junkyard and found 1 blazer that had the linkage I needed. Plus power steering and 1 rim like I plan to put on it Very Happy

Thanks for looking for stuff though.

Ian, how do they do a 203/205 combo? Havent heard of that.[/b]

:edit: Have the hood off, back bumper off, another bath, drivers seat out for floorboard inspection, old tank out. Today I am going to try and finish removing the cross member so I can test fit the new gas tank.

aaron_sK · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:52 am Post subject:

Worth a shot, buddy. Cool

The 205/203 is made by scrapping the differential part of the NP203 (which is the useless girly part anyway Razz

) and mounting the range section on the back of the NP205 to run as a doubler.

Google "205/203 doubler". It is a very common mod and lots of kits are available. You will need an adapter, shifter(s) and a crossmember IIRC.

iansane · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:07 pm Post subject:

91RSVert · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:57 am Post subject:

iansane · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:29 am Post subject:

Picture the transfer case like like a fwd transmission mounted directly to a diff. You've got the range selection box (the "transmission" that lets you go from hi to lo) and the differential that sends the drive power to just the rear axle, just the front axle or both at the same time. Smile

You toss the crappy diff of the 203 (think 7.625 ten bolt) in favor of the nicer 205 (think 12 bolt).

aaron_sK · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:33 am Post subject:

Okay so lets start at the beginning then. Wink

First off most transfer cases in American trucks come from New Process or Borg Warner. Thus the "NP" and "BW" you will see. The cases are referred to by model number, but note that cases with the same model number came in a wide variety of trucks from different manufacturers and in different configurations.

A transfer case has two basic parts, the splitter and the range box. The splitter sends power to the front and rear shafts while the range box performs the standard high/low function.

If you offroad and want more gear reduction (especially in a truck with a manual transmission) you will want a deeper low-gear than the normal low-range of your transfer case, so you install a second low-range box inline as shown:

This is commonly referred to as a "doubler" as most common boxes are about 2:1 ratio, thus doubling the effective gear ratio of the truck when it is engaged. In that picture you can clearly see the doubler made from half of an old NP203 case (black) and the heavier-duty (and part time) NP205 case mounted behind it (orange).

The downside of this setup is weight, length, drivetrain loss if the truck is driven at high speed, and cost of the adapters.

For a street truck where the 4x4 is only used to get things unstuck then you don't need the doubler, and a good part-time case like the NP205 or NP208 will serve you well.

91RSVert · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject:

I plan to mostly street drive this about 85-90% of the time. Only in bad weather or pulling something stuck will I use 4x4. Occasionally I might trail ride or light wheel. But before I fix that body, I am going to make sure it gets down n dirty Twisted Evil

91RSVert · Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:45 pm Post subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJCg6uz4sh4&feature=youtu.be

Very Happy

Al Hasse · Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:51 pm Post subject:

Private video....