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		Al Hasse Member
  
  Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
   1992  Chevrolet  Camaro RS
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				 Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:07 pm    Post subject: New exhaust systm...Maybe | 
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				I think I've found the system I want to put on the 89.  I've been searching for either the Borla system, or a GMMG chambered system.  Hawks carries both, Borla being the more expensive, but prices for both are outrageous, and shipping is not included (about $130 or so to our coast).  
 
 
I read somewhere once that Mad Hammer was the maker of the GMMG system on the 93-02 Camaro/Firebird cars, and by all appearances, they look identical.  I went to their site and did some looking around - their system, with tips and clamps, goes for $675, S/H included.  
 
 
For comparison, here are the links to both vendors' systems with prices.
 
 
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/camarofirebird82-2002chamberedexhaust.aspx
 
 
http://www.madhammer.com/pages/mad_hammer_prod_82-02_cama.html _________________ 92 Camaro
 
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		blue89 Member
  
  Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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		aaron_sK Member
 
  Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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				 Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:31 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Not specific to that brand, but in general if you are planning to have a catback welded in you can use a fourthgen system. The only differences I have found are the hangers and the flange to the cat. The routing seems the same. | 
			 
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		blue89 Member
  
  Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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				 Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:46 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I used a 4th gen 2.5" exhaust on my V6 car. The routing was identical from the cat back. | 
			 
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		MrMike98 Member
 
  Joined: 18 May 2010 Posts: 231 Location: Bremerton
    
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				 Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:28 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				those setups use a "muffler" that we oldtimers used to call a glass pack only without the out shell...
 
 
What are your intensions for car?
 
 
if u want to keep ur wife out of the car cause its way to loud-get one of those..good for performance however..........
 
 
I have heard and used many many mufflers etc... and for my 3rd gen I really like the Hooker Aerochamber...great sound-and good flow..
 
 
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		Al Hasse Member
  
  Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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				 Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:39 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | blue89 wrote: | 	 		  I'm surprised you aren't making one from scratch. I thought you had all the free time a man could need?    
 
 
All honesty, what is the going rate for a scratch built setup by kitsap muffler? | 	  
 
 
Kitsap Muffler did the one I have on there now, a Pro-Flow muffler which does OK.  They also hacked up my Y-pipe because my sub-frame interfered with its routing and made a half-a$$ed tee.  They also don't do mandrel bends.
 
 
 	  | MrMike98 wrote: | 	 		  | if u want to keep ur wife out of the car cause its way to loud-get one of those..good for performance however.......... | 	  
 
 
No wife to worry about and my V6 is louder inside the car than the 383 - stock turn-down tips under the car instead of straight pipes out and past the bumper. | 
			 
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		Al Hasse Member
  
  Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I think you may have sold me, Mike.  I listened to several sound clips of each, as well as Flowmaster and Magnaflow - probably didn't do any of them justice.  I still like the GMMG and Aerochamber best, they both sound very similar but the Aerochamber is less raspy on deceleration.  At half the price, Aerochamber wins out    | 
			 
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		chevymad Master B
 
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:47 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| The system on my 87 is the Aerochamber cat back without a cat. | 
			 
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