Cascade Crew

kutison · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:18 pm Post subject: No Smoke

I had the car DEQ'd and it failed due to HC's at 285 and 303 (benchmark is 220) and smoking to much. I seafoamed the gas, oil and through a vacuum line. I don't know how much it helped with the numbers, and the car is still smoking blue as bad as ever.

I know I need the valve seals changed, but is it safe to add a stop leak additive to the oil when I have already added seafoam.

aaron_sK · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:23 pm Post subject:

You are dumping the wrong thing in the wrong tank.

Run the tank way down, drive to the test place and pull over just up the road. Dump a bottle of Iso-Heat in it, go pass the test then immediately fill up.

kutison · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:21 pm Post subject:

Deq results in
Before Iso-Heet to a very low tank: HC's were at 285 and 305 (standard is 220)

After, it was 221. Much clsoer, but they still failed me for smoking. Crying or Very sad

aaron_sK · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:02 pm Post subject:

How hot do you usually run it? Ideally you want it hot as possible to pass. You might have to unhook the fan while you test or maybe even swap the t-stat out temporarily.

You could also try retarding the timing.

kutison · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:21 pm Post subject:

I have a electric fan rigged to an on/off toggle under my light switch, I run it as long as I dare, due to my temp gauge not working. I'm not concerned about the hydrocarbons so much as the blue smoke.

I know I may have to have my rings or seals replaced, If I haven't destroyed the cylinder walls by now. I'm trying my hardest to avoid that scenario, seeing as how I am an unemployed 20 credit hour student. Thank you Mr. tax payer.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject:

A- He's in OReGomi. They don't like VISUAL smoke at all and will fail you. Or fail you for noise just ask John.

Your best bet is to install a new cat to try and kill the smoke. Get the motor hot. Blue smoke regular running is going to be rings.

kutison · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:01 am Post subject:

It's under acceleration only, or at least I don't see much when it's just idling.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:23 pm Post subject:

Valve seals leak under high vacuum usually deceleration.

Have you made sure it's coming out the tail pipe and not fromt an external engine source and burning on the exhaust?

kutison · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:31 pm Post subject:

yeah, it's from the pipes.

kutison · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:56 pm Post subject:

The local shop said "it can be up to a couple of thousand" to do a rebuild, and doing it myself is beyond my skill, equipment and funds so,

SO if I can't get it through DEQ, it looks like I'll burn through some trip permits, and sell, it part it, or let it sit until I have the money to swap out the engine.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:34 pm Post subject:

Like I said. Best bet is to put a new cat on it or a 2nd cat and hope it cleans the smoke up enough. If it does, the emissions will take care of itself also.

Also, a fresh oil change is good for DEQ.

kutison · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:16 pm Post subject:

Full synthetic I'd imagine? I just have the jiffy lube special junk in there. Only like 300 miles worth of driving since the last oil change.

aaron_sK · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:32 pm Post subject:

I'd think thicker would be better, but I'll wait for Paul to chime in on that.

kutison · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:33 pm Post subject:

That's kinda what I was wondering about too.

turbo_jimi · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:40 pm Post subject:

How much does it cost in Oregon to get a waiver?

kutison · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:41 pm Post subject:

hmm, no Idea, ill check

kutison · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:52 pm Post subject:

I didn't know we had waivers, I'm only seeing that certain types of vehicles are exempt.

turbo_jimi · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject:

In washington, if you go to an emmissions certified shop and have 150 dollars worth of work done and it still fails, you receive an exemption and can buy tabs. At least thats how it was 7 years ago.

flea · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:06 pm Post subject:

I think it is still that way in WA. I hear they are getting rid of emmisions testing int the state though. Smile

kutison · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:54 am Post subject:

I should move to vancouver for a week